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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:50 PM
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Stochastic terrorism
Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.

This is what occurs when Bin Laden releases a video that stirs random extremists halfway around the globe to commit a bombing or shooting.

This is also the term for what Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and others do. And this is what led directly and predictably to a number of cases of ideologically-motivated murder similar to the Tucson shootings.

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The lone wolves.

The term "lone wolf" is used in law enforcement and intel to refer to an individual who is emotionally unstable, who lacks obvious ties to known criminal gangs or terrorist groups, and who pops up seemingly out of nowhere to commit a violent or terrorist act.

The three-letter agencies can keep an eye on organized groups, and do a damn good job at stopping violent actors associated with those groups. At least three intended car bombings were stopped last year by the FBI intercepting the bombers and substituting fake explosives in time to save hundreds of lives and arrest the would-be bombers.

Lone wolves don't have obvious connections through which they can be discovered. They don't communicate much if at all about their intentions. They keep their plans to themselves. And then, apparently at random, they pop up from obscurity and commit murder. They are law enforcement's and intel's worst nightmare, and on Saturday one of them became America's nightmare.
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Stirring the pot.

At any given time there are hundreds of thousands of Americans with combinations of personality characteristics (such as emotional instability, a paranoid ideology, and a propensity for violence) that put them at risk of going off the deep end and becoming lone wolves. All it takes is the right push, the right nudge at the right time, to dislodge a few of them and send them on their way to fifteen minutes of fame surrounded by dead bodies.

There's nothing mysterious about this process. It is not much different to other instances where a person is almost ready to make a decision, and the right combination of inputs makes them act. For example you have an old car and it begins to break down more often: now you're thinking about replacing it, and you might be swayed by something in an automobile advertisement. Anyone who is familiar with marketing and advertising knows how this works, and advertisers often target their messages to people who are "ready to buy" and just need a little persuading. Political candidates often target their ads to the undecideds, hoping that a little nudge will win them some votes. This is perfectly normal and hardly insidious.

It becomes insidious when these practices are used in such a manner as to deliberately or negligently stir up lone wolf violence.

So let's take Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly. There is no question that their emotional rhetoric appeals to people who are emotionally unstable. And, since their audiences are tracked and analyzed in detail, there is no question that they know it.

When they go on TV and shout and sputter, rant and rave, and weep and wail, they are not expecting to persuade liberals or even undecideds to change their votes. They are "playing to their base," that they know includes people who are emotionally unstable. In short they are "stirring the pot." And if you turn up the temperature and keep stirring, you know that the pot will boil. Little bubbles will come up from the depths and pop.
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Pop go the lone wolves.

Some lone wolves have no provable connection to the hate-talkers and pot-stirrers, other than memes in common. One example of this type is James Wenneker von Brunn who shot and killed security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. Another is Andrew Joseph Stack III, who flew a Piper Dakota into the Austin Texas field office of the Internal Revenue Service, killing IRS manager Vernon Hunter and himself, and injuring thirteen others. At this point it appears as if Jared Loughner is one of these: all-over-the-map crazy, with an incoherent ideology that is mostly rightwing but difficult to trace to specific sources.

On the other hand...

On 27 July 2008, lone wolf shooter Jim David Adkisson walked into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church and shot nine people, killing two and wounding seven. Adkisson said he was motivated by hatred of "Democrats, liberals, n-----s, and faggots." A police search of his home found books by Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly.

On 4 February 2009, he accepted a plea bargain: guilty on two counts of murder, in exchange for a life sentence w/o possibility of parole (LWOP).

On 4 April 2009, Richard Poplawski shot five Pittsburgh PA police officers, leaving three dead and two seriously wounded.

According to people who knew him, he was a birther and white supremacist, was paranoid that Obama was going to take away his guns, and was consumed with anti-semitic conspiracy theories. A police search of his computer found links to various groups and to a YouTube video of Glenn Beck talking about FEMA concentration camps.

Poplawski's trial has been delayed until 25 April 2011, where it is possible he will face the death penalty for the murder of police officers.

On 31 May 2009, lone wolf Scott Roeder shot and killed gynecologist Dr. George Tiller while Tiller was attending church services. At first it appeared that he acted alone, but research by some fellow Kossaks and I uncovered evidence that he had at least one accomplice. That issue is presently being investigated by a federal grand jury.

In the months leading up to the assassination, Bill O'Reilly had waged a "relentless campaign" against Tiller, a campaign of exactly the type that would be expected to stir up violence against the doctor. The details can be found here: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/31/tiller /

In January 2010 Roeder was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life without parole. At present his accomplices and enablers have not yet been indicted and charged.

On 18 July 2010, Byron Williams set out from his mother's home in Groveland CA, heading for San Francisco to shoot up the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, with the intention of "starting a revolution."

Williams, a convicted felon (two bank robberies), was stopped by the CHP (California Highway Patrol) for weaving in and out of traffic at high speed. When stopped, he immediately opened fire on the CHP officers, wounding two. They returned fire, wounding him in the leg, and then took him into custody. At first they thought they were dealing with a garden-variety cop shooter. Then they found the notebook in his car, with the details of his plans.

Quoting the Wikipedia article on Williams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Williams ...(shooter)

Quote: Williams has identified Glenn Beck as his primary motivation for the shootings. According to Williams, Beck is "like a schoolteacher on TV... he's been breaking open some of the most hideous corruption." Continuing: "Beck would never say anything about a conspiracy, would never advocate violence. He'll never do anything ... of this nature. But he'll give you every ounce of evidence that you could possibly need." End quote.

Prior to Williams' planned attack, Beck had mentioned the obscure Tides Foundation 29 times on his program. He had drawn numerous charts on his infamous blackboard, showing how Tides is the funding source behind much of the "liberal conspiracy." He had stoked and fueled, turned up the heat on the pot, and stirred it real good. _He devoted two of his broadcasts to Tides in the very week preceding the shooting.

Quoting the Washington Post article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

Quote: Beck has at times spoken against violence, but he more often forecasts it, warning that "it is only a matter of time before an actual crazy person really does something stupid." Most every broadcast has some violent imagery: "The clock is ticking. . . . The war is just beginning. . . . Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government. . . . You have to be prepared to take rocks to the head. . . . The other side is attacking. . . . There is a coup going on. . . . Grab a torch! . . . Drive a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers. . . . They are taking you to a place to be slaughtered. . . . They are putting a gun to America's head. . . . Hold these people responsible." Unquote.
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Every ounce of evidence you could possibly need.

One dead doctor.

Two dead churchgoers.

Seven wounded churchgoers.

Three dead police officers.

Four wounded police officers.

How many more that I couldn't remember while writing this?

Meanwhile the jury is still out on whether Loughner's victims belong on the list of people who "got Becked."

As someone on dKos wrote in a comment about this a few months ago, there was a saying among his buddies in the Air Force: "Once is a tragedy, twice is a terrible coincidence, three times is enemy action."

If you were a media personality known for rants & raves on the air, and it came out that some random killer had possibly been influenced by you or one of your colleagues, what would you do? Would you apologize? Would you tone it down?

If it happened again, what would you do? And if it happened yet again after that? What would you do?

It takes more than just a special type of sociopath to fail to be moved by the murders of doctors, churchgoers, and police officers in the line of duty, and the could-have-been-murders of more.

I submit to you that it takes something between callous disregard and deliberate intent.
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Pulling the trigger by remote control.

If you wanted certain people dead, but you wanted plausible deniability, you would have someone else do the deed for you at a distance, the greater the distance the better.

One way to do it would be to use your position on radio or TV to hurl emotional rhetoric that is calculated to appeal to people who are psychologically unstable. Some of them will go out and vote, some will go forth and spread your rant-memes, some will get into bar-room brawls over one issue or another.

But a few, who have already demonstrated a lack of respect for the law, will do more than that. Maybe they'll assault someone on the street who is black or gay or speaking Spanish in public or wearing traditional Islamic garb. Maybe they'll make a bomb and put it in the mail or plant it at a women's clinic.

Maybe they'll go out and shoot someone. Maybe they'll shoot someone who, in your heart of hearts, you want dead. If you have a list of targets in mind, such as Operation Rescue's website with crosshairs on doctors, or Palin's crosshairs on elected officials, it won't matter who gets killed first and who gets killed later: any hit will do.

This is stochastic terrorism: you heat up the waters and stir the pot, knowing full well that sooner or later a lone wolf will pop up and do the deed. The fact that it will happen is as predictable as the fact that a heated pot of water will eventually boil. But the exact time and place of each incident will remain as random as the appearance of the first bubbles in the boiling pot.

And so the unstable shooter, the sick kid or crazy grownup, will be taken into custody where they will rant a disconnected version of your own rants. The fact that they are clearly nuts will enable shifting the public discussion away from your hateful rhetoric and toward the overt insanity of the shooter or bomber.

After that, you get to go on the air and tut-tut along with everyone else, and say Oh So Sad, and all that crap. But behind the scenes you drink a toast and cheer: one down, a bunch more to go.

Or perhaps you're just crazy enough to truly believe that you really don't have anything to do with it. You collect your media star paycheck and tootle along to the next day in front of cameras and microphones, ready to do it again, as oblivious as the drunk driver who runs over a flock of schoolchildren and keeps driving, and then when the cops pull him over, says "Who, me??"
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The guilty-knowledge test.

Someone needs to corral Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, and the rest of them, in front of a microphone and camera that are not of their own choosing.

For example think of Sixty Minutes and their famed unannounced appearances at the offices and even homes of various wrongdoers over the years. Or think of press conferences or other scheduled appearances, where someone pops up and asks the inconvenient question or two, and the question captures the headlines.

And someone needs to ask them: In light of this latest in a series of ideologically-motivated murders, are you willing to tone down your rhetoric even a little?

Listen very closely to their answers. They will duck and weave, evade and deny, or at most give the standard reply of "lone nuts, oh so sad." But they may also let slip a subtle hint of guilty knowledge.

The author of the aforementioned WaPo article says in passing, "It's not fair to blame Beck for violence committed by people who watch his show."

I say it damn well is fair to blame them when it happens again and again and predictably again.

Once is a tragedy, twice is a coincidence, three times is enemy action.

And now we know how it's done: stir the pot and wait for the inevitable, and then deny it and do it again. That's stochastic terrorism as surely as when Bin Laden does it. And Beck and his fellow hate-mongers are terrorists by remote control.

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Reposted from last weeks dairy by G2geek, which made the top of the Rec list @ Kos.

http://www.dailykosbeta.com/story/2011/01/10/888541/-St...
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:52 PM
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1. The right wing has been "auditioning" future Timothy McVea's for over 2 years.
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 04:53 PM by JoePhilly
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:34 PM
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8. There plenty of angry protestors
with lots of ugly signs.

In Dallas.

In 1963.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:37 PM
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10. Of course we know that JFK was victim of an internal coup
But violent rhetoric is not anything new. If fact if someone were to read up on US intell, the history of, they might be familiar with terms like "honey Pot" or "lonewolf.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:52 PM
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11. Wind up the crazies and let them do what they do.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:59 PM
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14. Right, you know that the odds of "something" happening will increase
the bombing of abortion clinics, no one could know the who, when, or how. But if the media spends enuff yrs telling people " Those Abortions are murder", then the odds go up that something will happen.

Stir the Pot....
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:14 AM
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24. Hannity's audience members cheered being refered to as "future McVeas."
They were gung-ho and trigger ready.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:53 PM
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2. Recommended but unrec'd counter by someone.
I feel like a stranger in a strange land.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:35 PM
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9. Thank you.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 06:23 PM
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17. Thank you for the post.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:57 PM
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33. !
;(
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:54 PM
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3. tfp
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:05 PM
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4. Once again the media implores us to "move along, nothing to see here", when this is
what it's all about. K&R
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 06:50 PM
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18. Thanks Emily
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:12 PM
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5. That's exactly it - and they keep their hands clean, and immediately distance themselves
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 05:13 PM by Rabrrrrrr
from the very people they otherwise imply are heroic (until the poor saps actually do what Beck, O'Reilly, Palin tell them to do, and then BOP pretend "I never knew ye; that wasn't what I was talking about") while secretly high-fiving each other knowing that their agenda is being worked out.


Cowards is all they are.

Like bin Laden - just a coward. Tells other people to go blow themselves up for Allah, but he never does.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:13 PM
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6. Thanks for this excellent essay.
:kick: & recommend
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 06:05 PM
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16. Thank you for the rec yellerpup.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:31 PM
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7. Anybody ever read the Foundation Trilogy by Asimov?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 04:17 PM
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48. Are you alluding to the robot rules, "First, do no harm"? I never read them, but
I remember hearing about these injunctions, in connection with discussions about artificial intelligence.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:53 PM
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12. K&R nt
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:17 AM
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26. thanks, Hissy
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:56 PM
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13. Where did this term come from?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 06:02 PM
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15. From Probability theory, heres a wiki
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:15 PM
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35. Thank you. I seem to learn something new everyday here on DU.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:13 PM
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41. Check, also, the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual (DSM) IV, or V ?, for the data
upon which the probability of incidents of certain types of pathological behaviors can be based.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:15 PM
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42. P.S. And probability also includes the frequency of an event. nt
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:57 PM
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50. Yes - and stirring the pot increases the event frequency
yup..
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:33 PM
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19. K&R
:hi:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:53 PM
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21. Thank you sir.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:36 PM
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20. Yes treasonist terrorism. Nothing more, nothing less. Should be prosecuted.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:55 PM
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22. Rec
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:35 AM
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27. Thank you Nadin, an honor sir.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:58 PM
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23. Limpballs, Beckler, Insannity, Osama Bin Reilly, et al are professional terrorists.

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:16 AM
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25. Of course you are correct sir.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:23 PM
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44. Very CREEPY, Swampy!!! Congratulations upon your insight!
:hi:
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RedArmy300 Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:05 AM
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28. Rec'd
I agree completely and I believe that privatized America will be the death of many since the cowardly and hateful ringleaders of the right can hide behind their angry mobs or the fucking LAW yet they deprive the left of the same right, the only way I think we'll ever stand a fair chance is to either use the same Cold War-era fear rhetoric - which I would HATE for us to do - or find a way to get the 'Red Scare' brainwashing to go away. The USA made its Empire off keeping its citizenry ignorant, jingoistic, and hammering us daily with various code words over the course of multiple decades.

That is why the confused hordes of Right Wing supporters cannot stand to have a logical debate with the 'Enemy' and that is why the Capital Elite, the Bourgeoisie, continue to recycle trigger words from the Cold War as well as try to install violent triggers in their minions.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:28 PM
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45. List of things they hide behind, please include: Mediocrity & Incompetence & their attendant Entropy
at all levels.
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MaeScott Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 06:45 AM
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29. K and R. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:45 AM
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30. THIS is a meme that the Dems should push as hard as the repukes push their lies about
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:46 AM by BrklynLiberal
every single issue that the Dems support and is GOOD for the country.

THIS term should become a taking point for the Dems....if only they would actually use talking points.

It is nothing less than domestic terrorism by proxy.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:55 AM
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31. A conspiracy theory, cloaked in pseudoscience, wrapped up in unproved assumptions about mentally ill
...people.

:kick:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:37 PM
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36. It doesn't require conspiracy at all. And the DSM IV (V?) does not claim to "prove" anything at all.
Statistics make it possible to estimate the PROBABILITY of an event. That is all.

Regarding conspiracy, plausible deniability is such an elegant trait. Whether anything like whatever it is that you might, or might not, want to happen happens or not, you can still DO whatever it is that you want to do.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:42 PM
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38. The core assumption is that "Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and others" literally want people to DIE.
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 01:43 PM by slackmaster
Moreover, that they are knowingly, intentionally saying things that will result in deaths.

It's absolutely a conspiracy theory.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that is necessarily not true, but it is fundamentally a conspiracy theory. Hillary Clinton's VRWC revisited.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:55 PM
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39. The core assumption could just as logically be that they literally want certain types of behavior to
occur and if anyone dies as a result of those behaviors occurring, as is extremely common in those who support wars, that is an acceptable side-effect.

The hypothesis is based upon the assumption that there are classes of behavioral types that are essentially similar to setting fire to a building, or invading a sovereign nation.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:07 PM
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54. it has nearly zero to do with them:Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity
It has a lot more to do with the Mellon Scaifes, Murdochs and the Duponts.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:04 PM
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53. Standard Psych profiling.
Nicolo Machiavelli touches on this kind of thinking
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:27 PM
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32. Excellent.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:59 PM
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34. K&R
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:39 PM
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37. The lone wolf
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 02:05 PM by felix_numinous
conspiracy theory is meant to deflect suspicion away from the true culprits. While we analyze the mental health of individuals who have fallen through the cracks of the crumbling infrastructure, the true conspiracy rolls on.

There are true conspiracies, people working together for common cause, these we can only learn about through 'leaks' in their security, and there are false conspiracy theories.

One myth continually fed to us over and over and over, is about how we live in a dangerous society, that there are murderers out there, might be your neighbor, must be that strange person who lives by herself who dresses funny, must be that foreign family, ect. Since the 70s TV became saturated with cop programs, and since then that story, about people murdering people, and the police who come to rescue us from them, fill the airwaves. Why does this story get told over and over and over? Why? To program us against each other, to break up communities. To make us afraid to go out at night.

meant as a general reply, crap did it again
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:06 PM
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40. I like this point very much. Not all conspiracies are false. Not all equivalencies are false. The
NEEDED tasks are to figure out which are which, so in regard to conspiracies, the questions are about conspiracy to do what and (something I was thinking about relative to 9/11) how intentions can be nested in a hierarchy, thus providing plausible deniability to all participants.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:01 PM
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52. Anybody that has studied the History of US Intell knows the term Lone Wolf
Its really standard terminology, just like "Honey Pot", a female spy that uses sex to control or mine info from the target.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:17 PM
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43. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, FogerRox.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:58 PM
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51. You are welcome Joe, thank you.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 03:39 PM
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46. Kick. (nt)
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 04:15 PM
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47. My humble "thanks" for the indepth post...
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 04:40 PM
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49. Stoke Casket Terrorism. nt
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 01:07 AM
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55. I made this video proving your post
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 01:07 AM by Oilwellian
Glenn Beck is the perfect example of stochastic terrorism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcNwACyoRto

I just finished it late this evening and will be posting it in the video forum tomorrow. There is another video on the front page that is similar to mine however Beck's rant in the other video has been manipulated. The Beck rant I show is the real deal.

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:55 PM
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56. send me the link, I rec it
thanks.
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