Romney will be the easiest person to defeat.

[dkf]

All Obama has to do is stand at the podium and tell people he modeled his health care plan after Romney's. That instantly exposes Romney as someone who will lie to your face to avoid the uncomfortable truth and be held accountable.

[mucifer]

1. I don't agree. There are plenty of repubs and indys that will vote for "anyone but Obama". nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. Naw. Bachmann, Santorum, Cain are all easier

[dkf]

6. No Perry or Newt?

I just think this thing about Romney being the guy to watch out for is a joke. He has no credibility. The rest might be batty, but they aren't such bold faced liars.

Listening to him I feel like the wife who caught the husband cheating having to sit through his pure BS. It feels like he is gaslighting.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. I love watching Newt.

He must know that a snowball in a working ceramic kiln has a far better chance of being elected than he. He has to know that his ideas are lame, dated, and disproven so often that even Calista finds his lines boring. He has to know that most of America views him as a joke. I think the only reason he continues to run is in hopes of finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow - a really good FOX gig.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. How does that show Romney to be a liar?

He absolutely *is* a pathological liar, but i'm not sure how your scenario demonstrates that.

In fact, I think it will work the other way - it could be seen as Obama indicating that Romney is smart and reasonable person, after all he created a health insurance plan that even Democrats could rally around.

[dkf]

9. Oh gosh this is so easy...Obama just expresses his incredulousness at how Romney pulled the wool

Over Republican's eyes trying to convince them that it wasn't the same thing.

I mean the Repubs were insanely incensed over Obama's plan. If you will pull that on your own people what else would you do?

[MannyGoldstein]

10. I may be wrong, but I believe that Romney has claimed only that RomneyObamaCare

should not be national policy, only state policy. I don't think that Romney has said that Obama implemented something fundamentally different.

[dkf]

12. It makes no sense that what works for one state is completely inappropriate for the nation.

That means you implemented something you don't really believe in at a fundamental level.

What makes Massachusetts so much more appropriate for this system than the nation?

Moreover he brags about how many people are covered. He wants to eat his cake and have it too. That drives me batty.

[MannyGoldstein]

19. I agree, it makes no sense nt

[hlthe2b]

4. He could put someone on the ticket as VP that WOULD rally the RW...

and ROmney would be perfectly acceptable to the corporatist crowd, so I would be careful about being too overly confident.

[Crazy Dave]

5. All Romney has to say to that is...

"And you promised all your supporters in 2008 that you would have a public option for them."

Liar!

[Firebrand Gary]

7. Crazy Dave has got some mad debate skills.

That's what I would say if I were debating the issue as well.

[Firebrand Gary]

8. Here is where I agree with you. With one line last night Romney lost the nomination.

Romney said out of his own mouth that he did not get the cost of healthcare down in Ma. Romney is finished.

[elocs]

11. If he does get the nomination I'm sure you'll be the first to admit you were wrong.

Well, probably not.

[Firebrand Gary]

13. Of course I will, why the smug "probably not?"

Edited to add

I still believe Huntsman will be the nominee.

[ixion]

14. Yeah, because Obama has never lied.

:eyes:

[dkf]

17. But Romney goes one step further.

He will insist that what you know to be the truth isn't the truth. That is pathological.

[Proud Public Servant]

15. You've got it backwards

Romney will be the hardest person to beat, for exactly that reason.

Conservatives will hold their noses and vote for any GOP nominee, because for them the goal of ousting Obama trumps ideological purity.

Independents, on the other hand, are more likely to embrace an establishment GOP figure like Romney than any of the hard-right fruitcakes running against him in the primary. And the more Romney appears "moderate" by being associated with policies Obama also championed, the more that helps him.

Make no mistake, Romney's dangerous, especially if he doesn't screw up his VP pick.

[dkf]

18. Because he disses his own party by gaslighting them? That is sad.

[leveymg]

16. Disagree. And, if Obama said that, what does that say about HCR and Obama? Hmm?

[dkf]

21. It's not a comment in the merits of HCR, its a comment on a man who is deceptive.

[leveymg]

24. Which man? That's the question this raises.

[Upton]

20. The polls say otherwise..

and Romney looks reasonable compared to someone like Cain, Perry, or Bachmann. Make no mistake, if the Repubs do nominate Romney, and if Obama's approval rating continues to hover around 40%, he's going to be a tough draw for the president....

[dkf]

23. This isn't about polls, it's how I see the debate playing out.

[Bucky]

22. Not even close.

I still think Obama can win, but your personal contempt for Republicans is not a fair measure of national concern over the economy.

[dkf]

25. Well the question I was hearing earlier is why Romney is bumping on a ceiling

After watching the debate, I now know why.

[PRETZEL]

26. Aside from the Cain/Perry flip

there really hasn't been a whole lot of movement for anyone.

The 20% that Cain picked up from Perry was the 20% that Perry picked up from Bachman.

It seems that they all have their own little base and until the primaries and drop outs, I don't think this will move much for anyone.

Where we're at now is where they'll be once the primaries start.

[Ikonoklast]

27. At the debates with Romney, all Mr. Obama has to do is hold up one of these:

Then sit back without saying a word and let Mittens debate himself.

[treestar]

28. I agree in that at least it takes the Obamacare issue

away from the Republicans.

[WI_DEM]

29. Well, there are many reasons why he is vulnerable, that he is a chameleon is the strongest.

[bowens43]

30. I disagree

I think Romney is the only con that has even a slight chance of beating Obama.

Lies do not bother the cons....they thrive on lies...they love lies