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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:16 AM
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Pres. Obama: Were not going to wait around and play the usual political games here in Washington
October 13, 2011



from yesterday's news conference: (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/13/president-oba... )


(W)ith respect to the jobs bill, I have said repeatedly that the single most important thing we can do for the economy right now is put people back to work right now. And we have put forward a jobs bill that independent economists -- not my team, not my administration -- have said would grow the economy substantially and put up to 1.9 million people back to work. These are proposals that historically have been supported not just by Democrats, but also by Republicans. As Ive said as Ive traveled around the country, I dont know when rebuilding our roads and bridges that are decaying suddenly became a partisan issue.

And I was at a Jobs Council meeting up in Pittsburgh with CEOs from companies across the board, many of whom have been traditional supporters of the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable and other organizations that the Republican Party has claimed a lot of support for. And they said, for example, when it came to infrastructure this is something that anybody in Washington should agree to.





The Republicans havent given a good answer as to why they have not agreed to wanting to rebuild our roads and our bridges and our schools. They have not given us a good reason as to why they don't want to put teachers back in the classroom. And so what were going to do is were going to break each of these bills apart. Were going to say, lets have a vote on putting teachers back in the classroom. Lets have a vote on rebuilding our infrastructure. Lets have a vote on making sure that we are keeping taxes low for small businesses and businesses that are willing to hire veterans, provide tax breaks for further investment that can create jobs. And each time were going to ask Republicans to support the bill. And if they don't want to support the bill, theyve got to answer not just to us, but also the American people as to why they wouldnt.

Frankly, we have not seen a lot of ideas coming forward from Republicans that would indicate that same kind of commitment to job creation. If they do -- if Senator McConnell or Speaker Boehner say to me, you know what, we want to get some infrastructure built in this country, we think that putting construction workers back to work is important -- Ill be right there. Well be ready to go. If they are willing to renew the payroll tax as we worked on together in December, Ill be ready to go.





I dont think the problem here is that I have not been unwilling to negotiate with Republicans. I've shown repeatedly my willingness to work overtime to try to get them to do something to deal with this high unemployment rate. What we havent seen is a similar willingness on their part to try to get something done. And were not going to wait around and play the usual political games here in Washington, because the American people are desperate for some relief right now . . .

I think that anytime and anyplace that they are serious about working on putting people back to work well be prepared to work with them. But were not going to create a lot of theater that then results in them engaging in the usual political talking points but dont result in action.

People want action. And Im prepared to work with them. But, again, the last time I was here at a press conference I said -- I asked you guys to show us the Republican jobs plan that independent economists would indicate would actually put people back to work. I havent yet seen it. And so, eventually, Im hoping that they actually put forward some proposals that indicate that they feel that sense of urgency about people -- needing to put people back to work right now.




read speech: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/10/13/r...

related:

Republicans promise to create jobs -- someday
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/10/republican...


photos: REUTERS Jason Reed/AP Pablo Martinez Monsivais
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:22 AM
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1. I would like to see nice, tough talk backed up by nice, tough action. Words are cheap.
So are promises.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:29 AM
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9. Like????
What do you propose he do that he can do singlehandedly? :shrug:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:26 AM
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2. There are two things you can do all by yourself, Mr. President...
END THE FUCKING WARS and CLOSE AT LEAST HALF OF OUR 800+ BASES - bring the money home!
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:31 AM
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10. That'll help with deficit/debt
but how will that create jobs? He can't put that money elsewhere if Congress won't legislate it. Republicans will just want that money redistributed to more tax cuts or other things that they care about.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:33 AM
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11. For one thing it would kill the case for less spending and make it obvious...
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 10:33 AM by polichick
...that we can afford to maintain the safety net and put people to work in infrastructure and R&D programs. The people would be behind all of that in a big way.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:30 AM
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3. It would be nice if he had any credibility.
Instead he epitomizes the games played in Washington. He ran on such a promising hopeful platform, and since getting in office sells out those that put him there. That is the typical Washington game, and he is a master at it.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:51 AM
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15. Yup.
nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:43 AM
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4. You gave the other way a good long shot, Mr. President.
Take the gloves off, as you appear to be doing in speeches like this and take it to the people. Show the Republicans for what they are and use public opinion to get effective measures passed by Republicans who see that they have to worry about what their constituents think! Keep it up through 2012, so we can help to elect a new Democratic majority in Congress that will work with you instead of against you. You have the support of the vast majority of Democrats, who will help get out the vote and make this happen. Just keep the pressure on!

Rec!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:47 AM
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5. blah blah blah
:eyes:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:59 AM
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6. It took him 3 years to figure this out?
or has he always enjoyed playing those games and chooses to use that marketing line to get himself votes for the upcoming election?

fail.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:26 AM
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7. Apparently, it did. Trying for bipartisan solutions is actually
the normal way of doing things. He gave it a shot. It isn't working. I'm going to support this new approach and see what happens. I can't see where there's another choice at the moment. Perhaps the support of the entire left side of the political spectrum will be an encouragement for him.

I certainly can't see how non-support will help much. Taking the failure of the GOP to do anything positive to the people is part of the approach that may lead to a better outcome in 2012. Despite everything else, we still have those elections every couple of years. They set the course of what can be done by determining what the makeup of the legislature is. The system in place is not going to change drastically in a year. That much is certain.

President Obama needs even more support to continue this. He doesn't need the opposite. It won't help, but will hurt.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:48 AM
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13. You know the definition of insanity, right?
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 11:07 AM by Javaman
trying something over and over and getting the same result while hoping for something different.

One would think that after one or two times, he would have gotten the hint, but given three years of banging his head against the wall and expecting the repukes to change, even after they have stated in the media, on the house and senate floors that they will block any and all ideas, concepts and bills that the president puts forth.

And only now, as the election approaches he takes the bully pulpit to call them out.

2 years ago, when the tea bagging halfwits were basically controlling the media, Obama took a very weak approach to dealing with them, he has admitted as much. When he should have been on the attack.

But since that time, because he didn't attack, he lost an enormous amount of ground in credibility. Those of us who put country before party and democratic principles before campaigning have seen our advantage slip away in the face of compromise based on an illusion. Now, it's nothing but an uphill battle of Obama's own making to win back voters and people.

I know I won't convince you at all because I have seen your stance regarding the President and it appears to you, he does no wrong. I on the other hand, look at him as solely an elected official who I voted for to represent the Democratic platform, which, to me, he has not represented nor adequately supported.

How many times have we heard him say to the republicans, "these were your ideas and now you won't support them?" Many times. Their ideas, not the Democratic Parties ideas.

So, I'm done.

I will support someone to primary him, if only for the simple fact that he wakes up. However, because he will no doubt be the eventual Democratic Parties Candidate in 2012, I'll vote for him. But won't be because he's the best candidate (he was never my original choice to begin with), but because the choice is: insane corporate candidate or sane corporate candidate. I will choose sane every time even though both choices are against my best interests.

flame me now, post all sorts of links or your own special brand of rhetoric, I don't care, because I won't respond.

This is my stance.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:34 AM
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12. Yeah, I think he'll tend to "figure it out" every three years or so.
Then the election happens and he loses the thought.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:51 AM
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16. +1...
It's like short attention span theater.

or more like that movie with Robin Williams and Robert DeNiro, "Awakenings". Where DeNiro plays a guy who's in this odd coma state then awakens after a number of years, only be be lucid for a very short time. Then he goes back into his coma like state.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:28 AM
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8. You and your advisors continue to play plenty of games.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:50 AM
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14. Words words words. Yawn.
nt
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:58 AM
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17. We would all do well to remember the words of John Mitchell,
Attorney Genital under Nixxon and high muckety-muck in the Committee To Re-elect The President (CREEP):

"Let them listen to what we say, but watch what we do."

By his actions since taking the Oath, Obama deserves this form of scrutiny (rhymes with mutiny) upon every word that passeth from his lips.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:16 PM
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18. Is this an admission that for the last 3 years,
our President HAS been waiting around and playing the usual political games with:

WAR

Civil Liberties

Health Care

Wall Street Banks

War Crimes

The Economy

???

Sure sounds like it.


I have a lot of trouble with tough talk & promises during Campaign Season.

There have been many Joke Posts on DU predicting the Obama 2012 Campaign Message.
The most common one was:

Hope & Change,
and THIS time I really mean it!



Looks like that one is the WINNER.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their Campaign Promises.

Solidarity!
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