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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:47 AM
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Pomona marijuana dispensary raided by DEA, police
Source: Daily Bulletin

POMONA - Agents with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, assisted by Pomona police officers, executed a search warrant Wednesday afternoon at a medical marijuana dispensary in the 200 block of East First Street.

Pomona Police Capt. Paul Capraro said federal agents along with Pomona police went into the Green Cross USA shop at about 12:30 p.m.

They seized marijuana, edible food products containing marijuana, hashish, hashish oil and some documents, said Sarah Pullen, DEA public information officer.

"We seized contraband but also gathered evidence for the ongoing investigation," she said.

No arrests were made Wednesday but they could be made in the coming weeks, Pullen said. Both agencies have been working for several months on this case.

Read more: http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_19097662



The Feds started much earlier than the Press releases and the Letters to all the Dispensaries in California stated....
I believe this is the very first Raid in quit a while in the entire area..
The Devil is in the details Folks..
All Local Police and Sheriffs have been planning this for months..
A Coordinated effort with the Feds to shut down all and I mean all Dispensaries in California..
I live right around the corner and have visited this place...
The Police claims are stretching things at best...
From People smoking and selling the medical Cannabis in the Parking lot, to to many cars in the Parking lot..
Some Police claims that virtually are the same excuses used by Sheriffs to try and shut down another last year close by..

My point is the Feds and Local LEOS have been lying to the Public and working on this Invasion of California for month in secret..
It is a Coordinated effort to shut down all Public access to Medical Cannabis for all...

The Medical Cannabis Patient has been screwed by booth side in this and now has to go back into the streets to find Medication...
This will open up the flood gates for criminal activity... Not close them..
Patient will find a way to get their medication even at the risk of Jail....
This is Insanity......

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:54 AM
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1. Geez, don't they have anything better to do?
Like raid a meth lab?

This really pisses me off. Medical marijuana was approved by CA voters. So much for state's rights.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:56 AM
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2. State's rights only applies if you're gay
Obama said so.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:53 AM
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19. Seriously, I rarely ever hear of a meth bust, but every day see this crap with mm.
My small town is full of meth/crackheads, but only ever see weed busts in the paper.

Easier for gov to control meth/crack heads.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:28 PM
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30. We spend $40B/yr on the "drug war", and MOST of it is aimed at pot smoking.
That's not including costs of incarceration, mind you.

It's an idiotic, cruel, but extremely lucrative gravy train.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:22 PM
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44. Disgusting and despicable waste of resources and lives. n/t
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:02 AM
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3. From the article:
In May 2008 an ordinance went into effect prohibiting medical marijuana dispensaries in every zone in the city and in every specific plan area, said Assistant City Attorney Andrew Jared.

Independently of the DEA, the City Attorney's Office has worked to get an injunction to stop the establishment from doing business. In March the dispensary was cited for operating without a license, Jared said.

The business owner, Jeremy Maul, was convicted for operating without a business license but he is appealing the conviction, he said.


Step one: put business in area zoned for said business. Step two: get business license.

No point in the feds being involved, however.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:07 AM
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4. I heard that it's Obama's fault that he didn't get a business license.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:18 AM
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6. I heard the Feds don't tend to enforce local licensing issues.
If Obama doesn't want a share of the heat then he and Holder can stay out of such affairs and let the local law enforcement take the full brunt of any frustration.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:19 AM
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7. The Obama Administration supports legal MMJ
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. definition of legal?? ......... links?? ............ you got anything??
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:41 AM
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11. Bull
Shit.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:45 AM
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13. It is a fact. Sorry pal.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. Continually posting that doesnt make it true. While the DOJ continues to go after cancer grannies
instead of focusing on REAL crime.

Enough, already. Someday soon, pot will be legal, regulated, and taxed, and the idiots who supported the cruel and wasteful sham that is pot prohibition will see it relegated to the dustbin of history... and rightly so.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:17 PM
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25. The fact that it's true, makes it true.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. Sort of like how police support "legal red light running", right?
Because out here in the real world, there generally is no such thing.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:33 PM
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32. Not even close. It's true because it's their actual official position.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. You know you can write stuff in the big rectangle, too?
Down there where the pie picture goes.
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Frank Coffin Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. Yeah, link?
I'm still waiting for Obama to completely reverse the DOJ position and begin prosecuting every single hedge funder and bankers, as well as the criminal cabal of Bush, Cheney Inc.

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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:49 AM
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15. Link? n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:23 PM
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28. ,
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:38 PM
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35. The Ogden Memo again, huh?
Have anything that's not 2 years old? Meanwhile you've been inundated with a multitude of links proving the administration is no longer following what's stated in the 2009 memo.

Right now, I'm not sure if you're just being stubborn, have some kind of crush on Obama that goes well beyond politics, or perhaps something else is going on. Whatever, you must realize posting the same BS over and over is making you look foolish..
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:42 PM
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39. It's the administration's official policy on legal MMJ.
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 12:52 PM by tridim
I believe in defending the truth, and I always will.

You are free to post the official redaction (that doesn't exist) if you want.

And another important point, are the THOUSANDS of legal MMJ dispensaries that AREN'T being raided relevant to you at all? Do they not count?
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:37 PM
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48. How do you reconcile the Obama administration's "official policy""
with what's really going on? And if there isn't a problem, why do MM advocates in Colorado believe there's been a shift in policy?

http://coloradomedicalmarijuana.net/recent-news/latest-stories-right/obama-changing-medical-marijuana-policy

And why are protests against the Obama administration's crackdown planned in California?

http://americansforsafeaccess.org/article.php?id=6848 http://americansforsafeaccess.org/article.php?id=6849

Are all these people lying?

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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:49 PM
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51. All are illegal by Federal law
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 03:50 PM by DreamSmoker
distributing Cannabis in any form is totally illegal by Federal Law...
This includes all Cannabis in every state of the Union..
Local LEOs have used this tactic and sited federal laws as they come and Raid..
Its happened to me personally.. It is fact..
Also most don't know that Local Police have no power to enforce the federal Drug law on Cannabis either NONE...
Thats why States who allow medical cannabis for Patients have been successful in what they do..

Again... All Cannabis is illegal to possess or grow in the United States according the Federal Laws..

I have been involved in this for 40 years now..
With the cat out of the Bag.... Truth exposed..
This Government continues its Hypocrisy and never ever admits its wrong...NEVER...

Form example:
The ATF has never taken the responsibility or released the entire truth about selling more than a thousand Guns to the Mexican Cartels..
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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:59 PM
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43. Actions are more powerful than Words
This link contains nothing but words and intentions..
Just like most of what comes from Washington these days...
Now to take action on this and Target Californians???
This is a Tactic to set and example for all the Medical Cannabis States..

Federal Laws leave no room for compromise..
Cannabis is still a Felony to even possess...

I am an out spoken activist as well as a Cannabis Patient..
Not Young either..

Seen this Crap over and over and over again since before Nixon..

Bottom line is even all in Congress as well as the President are to blame as the Feds advance their agenda to eradicate Cannabis entirely
based on pure Bull.... Not Facts...

Its quit obvious this Government has kept the Public dumb as Hammers all these years..

Not any more Folks... The Wave of change is getting stronger..

This will just escalate the Movement here in California and weaken Government stand..

Also just create s more Criminals out of Good Sick Americans like me...

Keep it real.. This does not follow Party line either as many believe otherwise..

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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #7
18. LOL
Is that all you post? I can't remember how many times I've see you post that and it isn't any more believable now than it was the first time you posted it.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. I believe they are up to 37 times now
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #23
54. At least. LOL n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:17 PM
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24. I'll continue posting it until people stop lying about Obama's official position on the matter
I've posted the link to the official statement dozens of times and have yet to see any official redaction.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #24
36. Talk is cheap, aint it?
What are the REAL-WORLD implications of that policy? Can you provide examples?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:57 PM
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53. You posted something from 2009
stating that Obama was not going to waste resources
going after MMJ clinics that were allowed by the states

MMJ clinics, landlords, the media are all being attacked right now

Only so many options exist under these circumstances:

1.Obama lied and he always was going to do this
2.Obama does not know that his agencies are doing this
3.Obama changed his mind and did not tell you
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #24
57. Actions trump rhetoric. How does a statement override conditions in the real world?
You are about in the same boat as some idiot feverishly pointing to some lame Bush statement about transparency but ignoring what he was actually doing and hanging on to the absurd position until such point that Bush issued a statement recanting his false statement.

If he meant it, he'd have rescheduled it and sure as hell would have Holder leashed.

The only indication of "support" for medical marijuana is scheming to give the pharmaceutical industry access to make money off of it.
He is utterly bullshit on this.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:18 PM
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27. Aren't you from Colorado?
Thought you might like this:

Obama Changing Medical Marijuana Policy


The Federal crackdown on legitimate medical marijuana related businesses has intensified to the point of signaling a policy shift. Despite the campaign promises, and the historic Eric Holder speech in late 2009 declaring that the Federal Government would respect the rights of the states, there have been increased raids, IRS audits, and even threats to arrest landlords and state employees.


http://coloradomedicalmarijuana.net/recent-news/latest-stories-right/obama-changing-medical-marijuana-policy
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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 07:13 PM
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55. Yes This is Backed by President Obama
The move comes a little more than two months after the Obama administration toughened its stand on medical marijuana following a two-year period during which federal officials had indicated they would not move aggressively against dispensaries in compliance with laws in the 16 states where pot is legal for people with doctors’ recommendations.

The Department of Justice issued a policy memo to federal prosecutors in late June stating that marijuana dispensaries and licensed growers in states with medical marijuana laws could face prosecution for violating federal drug and money-laundering laws. The effort to shutter California dispensaries appears to be the most far-reaching effort so far to put that guidance into action.

http://the420times.com/2011/10/apnewsbreak-feds-target-ca-pot-dispensaries/



His big Target is all the Cannabis States..
Read it...
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:11 AM
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5. That works a little better if the city isn't arbitrarily banning businesses legal in the state.
In California marijuana is legally regarded as medicine. Can a city ban pharmacies? Or make a blanket refusal to offer them business licenses, or arbitrarily limit their numbers? I'm pretty sure that's not legal.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:21 AM
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8. A city council can "ban" whatever businesses they want to.
While I don't know for certain, there are likely no pork rendering plants in Pomona, nor pulp mills, or outdoor shooting ranges or whatever else. They can also vote to severely limit the number of any kind of business -- bars and liquor stores spring immediately to mind, but there are other businesses subject to limits, depending on the municipality.

City council members are usually term-limited, and regardless face election every few years. Sounds like this business had ample time to work the system, so to speak. I don't know the full story, of course.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:40 AM
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10. They tend to get sued over such things, and have to prove a public interest in the ban.
Especially when limiting people's access to health care.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:48 AM
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14. Yes, councils are routinely sued by businesses over unfavorable zoning conditions.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:58 AM
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20. Most cities around here have banned collectives
It's been going on for years. We have heard that the cities haven't had a lot of luck in courts. Cripes, Claremont even closed a hemp store.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:57 PM
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42. I know in Washington state..
since the DOJ threatened to prosecute state employees, causing Gregoire to partially veto the MM bill, many cities, including the one I live near, have either banned outright or put a moratorium on allowing any kind of dispensary to operate.

The Obama administration's recent actions have had a chilling effect on the medical cannabis movement..
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:43 AM
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:52 AM
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16. The city can make a tidy sum if....
the owner of the building also owns the pool hall/dive next door. There has been problems for years with Characters like the Mexican Mafia and a murder. I have no clue why the collective was blamed for all of the trash in the parking lot. There has always been trash and people hanging out there.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:01 PM
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22. Legalize it!
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 12:02 PM by slay
i'll repeat until dead - cause i have a feeling i will die before people come to their senses and fucking legalize it already damn! how many people have to be hurt over this ridiculous law FROM 1937 before something is done?!?!?!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:41 PM
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38. Medical MJ is legal in California.
These dispensary raids by the Feds are just witch hunts and harassment. I would like to know where the pressure on the Feds is coming from. Church groups maybe? Or, maybe even more nefarious, the big PhRMA industry.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:35 PM
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46. Yeah - but if it were totally legal - would eliminate the issue altogether
but yes - i would say pressure from big-pharma most likely. it is insane that ADULTS in this country are only allowed to choose the much more harmful alcohol and never marijuana. ugh. raids like this have cost Obama my vote. i'm done voting for anyone who won't allow us the CHOICE to consume marijuana if we want/need to.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:18 PM
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26. To the average American today

the Feds and local LEO's raiding cannabis dispensaries - and the politicians who enable them - seem to be on some other planet, in a nation - very much wealthier than our own United States, apparently - where there aren't millions of families facing foreclosure, there are not millions of humans going without basic medical and dental care, they do not have one in five citizens living on food stamps, the unemplyment rate is non-existent (unlike our sky high numbers of jobless) and they are not fighting two (or more covert?) wars.

To the average US citizen, this appears to be no more than power-hungry people trying to prove to everyone else that they can do whatever they want, so Nanny Nanny Boo Boo. There will always be a group in society that must constantly prove to itself it can have whatever it wants. We call them narcissistic sociopaths, they call each other "sir."

Most of us are too exhausted to get outraged, and they know it.

I think we're just so upset that our government has the money for this type operation, but none for the kid down the street losing his teeth cause there's no dentist, none for the kid struggling to go to college, none for the old person wondering how she'll make it through winter, none for the homeless veteran mother facing another bleak "holiday."

We sure have money for cruelty, and money free for the taking for the cruelest among us.

It will probably always be that way, but shame - and kharma back doublefold - on those who can live in these desperate times and have nothing better to do for society than fleece it.









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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:29 PM
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31. That's an excellent post, Tsiyu.
:thumbsup:
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:36 PM
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34. good post..nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #26
37. Every time a cancer granny smokes a joint, Jesus weeps and kills a kitten.
That's the problem.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:50 PM
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41. And what about the Children!!!!!!!! n/t
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:35 PM
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47. Thank you, Tsiyu, for an excellent post. n/t
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 04:13 AM
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58. "shame - and kharma back doublefold" may they receive thrice back what they sow - so mote it be
You are absolutely right Tsiyu
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:43 PM
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40. As usual, the federal govt has plenty of $$$$, when it comes to stuff like this.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 07:15 PM
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56. And War
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:28 PM
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45. "Both agencies have been working for several months on this case."
"I think they got weed over in that store with the big sign on it that says they sell weed there."

Brilliant detective work, boys. Maybe you could take a few months to solve some actual crimes.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:46 PM
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49. I have zero doubts Legal MJ measures will pass in CA
and other states in 2012. This harder they try the more we will get beyond 50%

The people know this is a scam and a charade, and violates everything we believe about the constitution. The people of CA will give the big finger to Holder and POTUS in 2012.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:54 PM
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50. I have doubts..
Wasn't the same thing said about Prop 19? Yet it didn't pass due to the leadership of both major parties coming out against it. When you have both the Republicans and Democrats fighting on the side of the drug warriors, it becomes a mighty big obstacle to overcome..
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:52 PM
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52. WTF is WRONG with them?!

Insanity, is right.
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