a Word for Christopher Columbus from the Burning Spear

[malaise]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxw088qQms

[yellerpup]

1. How can you discover a place when people are

already there? :thumbsup:

[LanternWaste]

2. It's certainly not as though I discovered...

It's certainly not as though I discovered the Beatles my freshman year in high school.

[yellerpup]

6. It isn't as if I discovered sex in high school, either.

But I thought I did! :rofl:

[LanternWaste]

17. It all seems rather relative to me...

I imagine we often discover for ourselves what has been already found by others. Yet the discovery from that perspective still seems rather relevant and valid.

It all seems rather relative to me... :)

[yellerpup]

23. Columbus status as a hero is also relative.

"A man is ethical only when life, as such, is sacred to him, that of plants and animals as that of his fellow men, and when he devotes himself helpfully to all life that is in need of help."

He was out to loot and rob.

[yellerpup]

24. Dupe - Delete.

"A man is ethical only when life, as such, is sacred to him, that of plants and animals as that of his fellow men, and when he devotes himself helpfully to all life that is in need of help."
Columbus was out to loot and rob.

[yellerpup]

25. Dupe - Delete.

[Sal Minella]

11. I like to ask right-wing types what would happen if a group of Seminoles

(or Arawaks) landed on the Italian seacoast, claimed Tuscany and environs for the sovereign tribes, and began carrying treasures out of the Vatican Museum and stashing them in their longboats.

I get very carried away when presenting this narrative, and I get some very strange looks, and some very boring people have subsequently disappeared from the world I live in . . .

[malaise]

16. Love it

:yourock:

[yellerpup]

19. I'd love to be there when you present your scenario.

I'm sure you get a lot of WTF looks and derisive comments, but you are spot on in your comparison. :toast:

[Nye Bevan]

15. I discovered a great little restaurant last week.

But I wasn't the first human ever to go there.

I don't see the problem with the word "discover".

[Sal Minella]

18. The problem is, the word is very egocentric when used in this sense.

You might discover that crushing a thumb between bricks doesn't hurt. This can be discovered if you are the one not attached to the thumb, but holding the bricks.

I think most people have a more "oceanic" view of things.

Personally, if I heard someone say, "I just discovered this wonderful restaurant!" I would run from the room, fleet as a deer.

[yellerpup]

20. I don't have a problem with the word discover, either.

Europeans did not discover, found, or improve this side of the world and just because they assumed that the earth was flat, that didn't make it so. What they are responsible for is the death of 99% of the inhabitants who were here before their arrival. We who are descendants of the survivors of that genocide do not honor Christopher Columbus' "discovery."

[malaise]

21. Think about it

They came and found us living peacefully - they stole our food, called us barbarians and forced their religion and diseases on our people.
Discover my ass! They came to conquer us and pretend we never existed but we know better - we gave the world corn, potatoes and a whole new way of life.

[yellerpup]

22. They intended to conquer and enslave us.

They failed at that, so they tried to kill us all. Came close, too. We had, and still have a lot to share. I don't respect anyone who celebrates Columbus Day.

[HipChick]

3. He never set foot on mainland America

[kas125]

4. Columbus day -

[malaise]

5. LOL

Freaking perfect

[fishwax]

12. .

:)

[yellerpup]

26. Perfect!

:rofl:

[Mnemosyne]

7. Is it genocidal maniac day again already? wheee... n/t

[FLSurfer]

8. Love it Malaise.

That one is on the playlist for today.
I'll add this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVs8iBEOqJE
when I get to work.
Quick reference to colombus but a classic song.

[malaise]

9. Nice

:hi:

[G_j]

10. "what about the Arawak Indians?"

:applause:

[aikoaiko]

13. I had to look up the lyrics....

...

Lyrics to Columbus :
I and I old I know
I and I old I say
I and I reconsider
I and I see upfully that
Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Yes Jah

He's saying that, he is the first one
who discover Jamaica
I and I say that,
What about the Arawak Indians and the few Black man
Who were around here, before him
The Indians couldn't hang on no longer
Here comes first Black man and woman and children,
In a Jam Down Land ya
A whole heap of mix up and mix up
A whole heap a ben up, ben up,
We have fi straighten out,
Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Yes Jah

What a long way from home
I and I longing to go home
Within a Red, Green, and Gold Robe
Come on Twelve Tribe of Isreal
Come on Twelve Tribe of Isreal
Out a Jam Down land ya
A whole heap of mix up mix up
A whole heap a ben up, ben up,
Come on Twelve Tribe of Isreal
Come on Twelve Tribe of Isreal
Out a Jam Down land ya

Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Yes Jah, he is a liar
Yes Jah, he is a liar
Yes Jah, he is a liar
Columbus is a liar
Yes jah Christopher Columbus is a damn blasted liar
Columbus

[malaise]

14. LOL

Nice :D