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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:46 PM
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The Cat Is Out Of The Bag
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 07:07 PM by Tace


There's no stopping the Occupy Wall Street protests breaking out in New York City and in cities across the United States.

The truth is that 99 percent of the American Public support these protests and will join them.

Torturing people won't stop it. And, just how many millions of Americans does the American police state intend to jail for protesting overt bankster corporate fraud?

This is our country, and there's no stopping what has begun. We are taking our country back from organized criminals.



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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:49 PM
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1. Kicked&Recommended!
:kick:
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:56 PM
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10. Thanks!
Yeah, man. : )
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:49 PM
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2. K&R!
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:58 PM
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12. : )
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:52 PM
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3. I think you're right
I'm delighted that young people started this. It's their future that's at stake. They have my full support.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:26 PM
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18. Epic
The Occupy Wall Street movement is starting to take on epic proportions.

It's exciting, and scary, too.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:52 PM
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4. That's the spirit.
Rec'd.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:33 PM
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19. Thanks : )
and, Cheers!
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:53 PM
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5. K&R
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:08 PM
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24. Thanks For The Kick
: )
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:53 PM
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6. I hope so. I really hope that the corrupt bastards running the country are on their way out of power
and preferably into jail
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:21 PM
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26. That's What I'd Like To See
Won't be many left standing, though.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 07:03 PM
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68. Hope you're right ... but "Congress is controlled by oil and gas industries" - Al Gore/Rolling Stone
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 07:04 PM by defendandprotect
Who has control of our MIC? Corporations, I think!

And though people themselves create an economy between themselves we have the fakery of

private banks controlling our economic policy, job goals, bail outs!

And a new Super Congress on the way to make everything even more of an "immaculate

conception" - !!


We had Obama alone involved in back room deals with Big Pharma and private H/C

industry - and negotiating with the GOP leadership on budget deals that Harry Reid

wasn't even privvy to!!


Everything has been taken into back rooms and/or to "higher" levels where the public

is shut out -- even Congress is shut out, but I guess that's the way they want it

anyway?

After all, if you SELL yourself to corporations you don't really want to get caught

legislating for them???

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Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:55 PM
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7. Not much doubt any more, is there?
Just who the police "protect and serve," that is...
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:00 PM
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31. Seems Clear As Day
And we pay for them with our taxes.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:55 PM
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8. I believe it...
... and saying that, I must join.

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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:03 PM
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61. MrMickysMom: This Is Even More Powerful Than The Anti-War Movement
...if that's possible. But, war is a more devisive issue.

The Occupy Wall Street movement is more unified and something that a majority of people can support, regardless of politics or anti-war sentiments.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 09:31 PM
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70. Then...
I'm there already.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:55 PM
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9. Clerk at the grocery actually squealed in delight when I told her about it. Hope rises... n/t
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:22 PM
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62. This "Meme" Has Gone "Mainstream"
It's a popular uprising. : )
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:29 PM
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71. I'm hoping to be able to get to DC or NY on Thursday, if all goes well. Toes crossed. n/t
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:58 PM
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11. Suppose they are making so many arrests so they can fine them to help
pay for the extra costs they've incurred? What are they fining them? If they blocked them on the bridge, it's as though they were corraling them on purpose.

I can't imagine. Why couldn't they leave them in the park area? They weren't hurting anyone except for the Wall Street employees who had to watch them. Did they make them nervous?

Are the Marines still appearing? If so, it should be within the hour.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:12 PM
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15. They're probably making these arrests for the reason they always do:
It gets the protesters off the street for up to
72 hours and breaks the momentum of the protesters.

Most of the charges will be dismissed before going
to trial or lose at trial.

Tesha
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 07:40 AM
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42. Oh well, it's not as if the tab isn't covered.
Courtesy the Wall St. civil war, I imagine?

Nah joking, those people never were united in the first place. I would like to see a return to the Blue Fund. I liked that idea. Maybe for small companies, though.
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dadzilla Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 01:07 PM
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51. There's a responce to that too.
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:07 PM
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13. K&R
Let's not be intimidated - arrests, threats, however bad it gets.

And let's not be appeased - no matter how fat and tasty the crumbs might look, it's no substitute for structural change.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:11 PM
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14. K&R...n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:13 PM
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16. That cat looks pissed
:rofl: :hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:14 PM
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17. Loving that pic
good job :thumbsup:

:hi:
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:34 PM
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20. kickety
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:41 PM
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21. I am totally down with occupying K Street
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 07:43 PM by rocktivity
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I just might have to take a little trek down there and join them.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:49 PM
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22. K and R
Love the cat! And I'm so proud of fellow Americans who are standing up and declaring, 'We're sick of it.' GRRRRRRR!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:57 PM
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23. Kitty pic equals Guaranteed rec's. You sly puss.
K&R
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:49 PM
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29. Heh..cat popularity. "I can haz revolution?" however would not be the finest meme to choose.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 09:00 PM
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30. Millions of felines growl in protest.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 09:11 PM by Kurovski
Spit, too. (you know how they can get) ;)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 08:28 AM
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44. works every time


:)
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Zanzoobar Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:09 PM
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25. It is to be determined...
How big d cat, how big d bag.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:41 PM
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27. The picture is cute, but I don't think 99% of the US public supports these protests.
Many Republicans and Libertarians seem to support unlimited-corporate power.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:04 PM
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36. Sadly, they seem to think that their paychecks are too small or...
... that their jobs were shipped overseas, because CORPORATE TAXES are too high, or because teachers get summers off, or because state workers have pensions... when the answer is simply that they are underpaid because most of the money has been sucked into only one tiny part of the country's socio-economic structure.

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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:22 AM
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41. this is why the atrention to Wall Street is imporant.
Now you have the chance to talk about how those who are so few and so rich have taken away from us all... everthing! And still want more!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:57 PM
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67. ... and this is another case where BUTTONS would be helpful....
for those who can't attend and want to say "I support the Wall St. Protesters!"

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:52 PM
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66. And they think they don't deserve MEDICARE FOR ALL ... so they'll deprive the elderly of it ....?
That all gets too complicated to even consider -- they have parents on Social Security

or they have kids who don't have jobs --

Granted RW propaganda works for a time, but eventually you wake up to what the nightmare

really is !!

As far as the T-baggers go, that's even harder to swallow -- it's funded by Koch Bros out

of a PR agency which guarantees them attention - -

At some point, no matter how fascinated they are with their guns, they have to wonder who

Koch Bros. are and why the world hates them?

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 01:14 PM
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52. This protest is not partisan - it is the workers waking up and realizing they are owned by 1% of the
population, and that there are many more of us in the 99% (duh).

I welcome republican and libertarian workers - come protest with us. Occupy Houston on Oct. 6th.

They know the economy is fucked and this is a good opportunity for them to be educated as to WHY that has happened.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 03:06 PM
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55. libertarians (and there are many types, not just what the corporate US media calls libertarians)
despise the confluence of big government and corporate power that is the system of unlimited fascist crony capitalism that rules the world these days, especially in the USA. One of the least intelligent things I constantly hear from the many on the so-called American left is the constant calling of libertarians 'the rich white man's anarchy'. If this was indeed the case, hundreds of millions would be flowing into their coffers from the multi-national corporations. In reality, the powers at the top do whatever they can to either destroy or misappropriate any form of either left or right libertarian thought.

The last thing the systemic controllers want is a 'level playing field'. The hate competition, and use the government to regulate their rivals, and crush small and mid-size firms. This is the enduring legacy of the so-called progressive era of Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.

The tragedy of it all is that false framing, massive political posturing, and deliberate mis-representations and attributions have led up to a point where both the false-left (ie most USA Democrats) and false right (ie most USA Republicans) have come to be associated with completely bastardized versions of economics. BOTH parties are, at their core, fascistic corporatists, and simply maintain a continuity of agenda of wealth and power consolidation for their banking and multinational corporate overlords.

Fascist scum like the Koch brothers have misappropriated certain parts of Austrian economics, taking out the parts that show disastrous failures in certain Keynesian models, but NEVER giving up their pure intent of oligarchy. Remember, Austrians, real Austrians, are much, much more into predictive theory, NOT political false posturing. Most people who try to do even a semi-deep dive into our global madness get gate-kepted by false dogma before they realize this.

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The same misappropriation occurs from the left, and clouds what actually happened during the seminal Progressive era. I tend to agree wholeheartedly with New Left historian Gabriel Kolko in his book "The Triumph of Conservatism: A Reinterpretation of American History, 1900-1916."

In it, he lays out a case for the rise of modern corporatist system during the Progressive Era. This in turn, allows for the violation a large principle No socialization of losses and privatization of gains (ie the confluence of big business and big government in mutual reinforcement).


http://www.amazon.com/Triumph-Conservatism-Gabriel-Kolk...

Kolko was soon joined by other New Left historians such as William Appleman Williams in challenging the reigning "corporate liberal" orthodoxy. Rather than "the people" being behind these "progressive reforms," it was the very elite business interests themselves responsible, in an attempt to cartelize, centralize and control what was impossible due to the dynamics of a competitive and decentralized economy.

.............in advancing the corporate liberalism idea whereby the old Progressive historiography of the "interests" versus the "people" was reinterpreted as a collaboration of interests aiming towards stabilizing competition . According to Grob and Billias, "Kolko believed that large-scale units turned to government regulation precisely because of their inefficiency" and that the "Progressive movement - far from being anti-business - was actually a movement that defined the general welfare in terms of the well-being of business" . Kolko, in particular, broke new ground with his critical history of the Progressive Era. He discovered that free enterprise and competition were vibrant and expanding during the first two decades of the twentieth century; meanwhile, corporations reacted to the free market by turning to government to protect their inherent inefficiency from the discipline of market conditions. This behavior is known as corporatism, but Kolko dubbed it "political capitalism." Kolko's thesis "that businessmen favored government regulation because they feared competition and desired to forge a government-business coalition" is one that is echoed by many observers today . Former Harvard professor Paul H. Weaver uncovered the same inefficient and bureaucratic behavior from corporations during his stint at Ford Motor Corporation (see Weaver's The Suicidal Corporation <1988>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Kolko

http://users.crocker.com/~acacia/kolko.html

http://miltenoff.tripod.com/Kolko.html

http://www.stateofnature.org/liberalElitesAnd.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:43 PM
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28. K & R!
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:02 PM
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32. K&R....n/t
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:15 PM
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33. Winter will stop it.
Lack of coherent focus will stop it.


This IS the beginning of the end... but it is not the end of the beginning.

These best thing about these protests is that they prove that Americans are awake, and that we will fight. There is much to learn, but the occupations show that we are ready to learn. The protests themselves are simply an indication of the increasing indignation of the 99%. If played correctly, this can be a defibrillator used on the class-unconscious American public. If not, it will remain stewing chaos, waiting for conclusions to be drawn and new organizations to spring up.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 03:12 PM
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56. That is my fear also. I have written to what constitutes the leaders to express that.
I also gave them my suggestions for ten word sentences explaning why the protests are happening and what the protestors want.

So far, no response.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:36 PM
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34. K&R n/t
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:45 PM
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35. K&R
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:34 PM
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37. K&R
+1
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:42 PM
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38. K&R
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Majikthise Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 01:54 AM
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39. This movement needs to grow
To every city in America.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 01:15 PM
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53. And needs a big assist from organized labor -
that will take it to the next level, because they will know how to write a list of demands.

Welcome to DU.
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Majikthise Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 02:20 PM
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54. Thanks :)
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:16 AM
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40. K&R
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 08:11 AM
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43. Those cats are getting around
First Egypt and the "No Mubark Movement" and now Wall St
Busy year for the felines
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 09:13 AM
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45. Sic 'em, kitty!
Mmmmmrrrrrrrrrraaaow!
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:09 AM
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46. We need MORE arrests, and MORE protests...
Get them to arrest so many people that the system can no longer house or feed them all! The gravy train is stopping and the 1% had best get used to this new reality - the old order is dying fast and ugly and its never going back to 'business as usual' in our lifetimes. The rape and pillaging of the 99% is OVER. IF they wish to escape with their lives, then peaceful acceptance of this reality is their choice. They may mistakenly decide that force is their answer, but math does not lie. 400 families cannot hold sway over 300,000,000 people no matter how much they might have convinced themselves that are 'masters of the universe'.

Turn out the lights, the party's over folks. Time to pay the bill. And we, the 99%, are not going to go quietly into that good night.


"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:26 AM
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47. Thank You!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:32 AM
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48. Rec for kitty pic! GO OCCUPIERS!
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:24 PM
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49. This is a test
How America responds to the power of the people will determine if we deserve to survive under the current system.

If the people are not in control of the government, then this entire government must be replaced as outlined by our founders.

The final act of a democracy is to replace it.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:28 PM
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50. You know what I think this might possibly end up leading to?
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 12:30 PM by Salviati
Something that I thought would never happen here until this started gaining traction:

A general strike.


Granted it's got a long way to go before it reaches that level, but I could actually see a pathway for that to happen now. All those wall streeters are trying to go galt on us, trying to drive the economy in to the ground unless they get what they want. It's time to remind them of exactly who needs who in this situation.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 07:07 PM
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69. Slow downs ... and short strikes to begin with -- and what about those BANK CARDS?????
Shouldn't we all be doing something in unity with the protesters --

like not using our credit or ATM cards this month?


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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 03:24 PM
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57. K&R
you said it
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 04:16 PM
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58. The German media is now full of this event
Any police brutality will elicit (truthfully) the chant: "The Whole World's Watching!"

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 04:54 PM
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59. Nothing better than a bunch of hungry and angry cats to go after these rats in bankers cloth. kr nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:03 PM
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60. Demand accountability for their greedy crimes against the USA.
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colsohlibgal Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:28 PM
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63. I Surely Hope So
My guess or maybe more correctly my hope is that every minute we also get a few more tea party types who finally get it right about who they should be quite upset about.

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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:09 PM
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64. The cat's out
and he looks like he means business! :mad:
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:45 PM
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65. Something about that cat's look
Find me... the one called "Schrdinger". Tell him "I live", even if the networks don't look at me.


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