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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:59 PM
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Help me respond to a Republican relative
He doesn't believe that most red states TAKE more $$ from the federal government than they pay in. I'm sure I've read that this is the case.
Could someone please direct me to a site with details on this?

Thanks!
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mercymechap Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:03 PM
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1. It's a fact!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:03 PM
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2. Blue states support the welfare red states...
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:08 PM
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3. Googled it
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:46 PM
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4. Interesting question
but how much of that is defense spending? It seems logical and reasonable that we're going to have a lot of military base spending per capita in large, lowly-populated red states.

Frankly, I wouldn't go there on this. There are better ways to argue your points than to use Federal dollars spent.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:47 PM
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5. YES Blue states SUBSIDIZE Red states.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:48 PM
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6. Wow, thanks for the quick replies
DU'ers are the best! :hi:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:58 PM
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7. That one is automatic. Metro areas also drive state tax bases as well.
Here is an essential regarding the Republicans, even ignoring the Teabaggers, Birchers, or whatever the batshit fringe de jour is, they are wrong about virtually everything and about any of the few things they are right on almost has to be a million monkeys with a million typewriter scenario.
This because of theory based on complete misinformation, gross distortion, and a willful disregard for reality.

If you just sit down and think about things beyond complete isolation things like this should be apparent. Your commerce and population centers are going to be the principle driver of tax revenues.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:03 PM
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8. It depends. If it is broken down per capita, some blue states take in
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 10:03 PM by SlimJimmy
much more per person than red states. Total expenditures per state is not the whole story. See the link for more ...

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/state_expend/per...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:59 PM
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9. Here's a map link, DR. Hope it helps.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:00 PM
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10. I love visuals. Thanks!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 01:23 PM
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12. Welcome, hope it helps. n/t
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:52 AM
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11. That's a very good visual representation of the link I provided. Thanks.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 01:25 PM
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13. very welcome, SJ, glad to help. n/t
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