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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:16 PM
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Insulting islam is now acceptable for cons
heres a quote actual post on the sean hannity board
You know islam, a religion dreamed up by a child molester in a cave. Now thats morality.
So even at that time Mo-Ham-Head would have been considered a child molester.

the so called moderators have no problem with that type of post...

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=95371051&postc...
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=95367781&postc...

heres the moderators responce

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=95376731&postc...



and this is on a forum representing a major media figure


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  - As opposed to "Xtian"?  WinkyDink   Sep-21-11 01:19 PM   #1 
  - You think this is comparable?  dmallind   Sep-21-11 02:08 PM   #19 
  - Seriously. The chi rho decorates every light fixture in the sanctuary of the church  iris27   Sep-21-11 03:28 PM   #27 
  - And of course, there's no child molestation in large Christian organizations  Warren DeMontague   Sep-21-11 03:49 PM   #35 
  - I'm reccing this for a reason  JustAnotherGen   Sep-21-11 01:19 PM   #2 
  - Not much says ignorance more than religion...  devils chaplain   Sep-21-11 05:15 PM   #43 
     - Oh  JustAnotherGen   Sep-22-11 10:35 AM   #54 
  - Much like Christianity on DU. Do you object to that as well?  11 Bravo   Sep-21-11 01:25 PM   #3 
  - Insulting a religion is Constitutionally-protected free speech. There are no blasphemy laws here...  slackmaster   Sep-21-11 01:26 PM   #4 
  - Blasphemy is a victimless crime..nt  msanthrope   Sep-21-11 01:27 PM   #5 
     - No, it's not even a crime in this country  slackmaster   Sep-21-11 01:32 PM   #6 
        - I was making a profound statement that apparently was only profound  msanthrope   Sep-21-11 01:34 PM   #8 
           - not only is it profound and hermetic  Warren DeMontague   Sep-21-11 03:50 PM   #36 
           - Do most of your profound thoughts come from bumper stickers?  Union Scribe   Sep-21-11 05:31 PM   #45 
  - I have no problem with insulting Islam or any other faith.  Codeine   Sep-21-11 01:34 PM   #7 
  - I agree. If there is anything in need of insult and derision it's religion.  Fuzz   Sep-21-11 03:20 PM   #26 
  - It is protected speech, I suppose,  Blue_In_AK   Sep-21-11 01:40 PM   #9 
  - Except the New Testament has no tenets preaching violence or calling Jews "dogs."  WinkyDink   Sep-21-11 01:42 PM   #11 
     - All of the so-called "holy" books were written by men.  Blue_In_AK   Sep-21-11 01:51 PM   #16 
     - The New Testament, Ma'am, Does Have Passages Calling Jews Children Of Satan  The Magistrate   Sep-21-11 01:57 PM   #17 
  - I insult islam  Rebubula   Sep-21-11 01:42 PM   #10 
  - but your not a major media figure or his representative  rdking647   Sep-21-11 01:48 PM   #15 
     - So....  Rebubula   Sep-21-11 02:09 PM   #20 
  - So what?  leftynyc   Sep-21-11 01:43 PM   #12 
  - i agree they have a right to do it  rdking647   Sep-21-11 01:47 PM   #14 
     - I'm guessing that  leftynyc   Sep-21-11 02:52 PM   #24 
  - I have no problem with Islam being insulted  NeedleCast   Sep-21-11 01:46 PM   #13 
  - umm Islam is a religion, not a human, It cannot be insulted as it does not have personhood nt  msongs   Sep-21-11 02:03 PM   #18 
  - it has been for years n/t  fishwax   Sep-21-11 02:28 PM   #21 
  - What's wrong with insulting religions?  Quantess   Sep-21-11 02:30 PM   #22 
  - All deity based religions should be insulted.....nt  bowens43   Sep-21-11 02:37 PM   #23 
  - It's not just acceptable, it's mandatory. No republican candidate will say a single kind word  pampango   Sep-21-11 03:02 PM   #25 
  - You should do a search and see if that statement is true or not  kctim   Sep-21-11 03:29 PM   #28 
     - I meant republican "presidential" candidate. And I have not heard of them say a kind word  pampango   Sep-21-11 04:43 PM   #40 
        - Even so  kctim   Sep-22-11 08:55 AM   #53 
  - What is wrong with insulting a fairytale? Islam and Christianity both need to be insulted.  totodeinhere   Sep-21-11 03:34 PM   #29 
  - Good for them  AngryAmish   Sep-21-11 03:36 PM   #30 
  - Islam is not protected or special  quinnox   Sep-21-11 03:37 PM   #31 
  - Predictably, many here who support these offensive statements are borderline Ignore User members.  closeupready   Sep-21-11 03:42 PM   #32 
  - yay ignore feature!  Warren DeMontague   Sep-21-11 03:57 PM   #37 
     - LOL - When the thoughts posted collectively bear a striking resemblance to this:  closeupready   Sep-21-11 04:04 PM   #38 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-21-11 04:12 PM   #39 
  - NOW acceptable?! When was it not?  Zax2me   Sep-21-11 03:43 PM   #33 
  - Someone should do a random survey of the intelligence of self identified Muslims and Conservatives  Snotcicles   Sep-21-11 03:45 PM   #34 
  - Islam is made up, it's just a cultural adaption of the "other" 2 great monotheistic religions  nomb   Sep-21-11 04:59 PM   #41 
  - That particular whole cloth is magic underwear...  Ben Gay   Sep-21-11 05:43 PM   # 
  - Why *should* the moderator have a problem with it?  Abin Sur   Sep-21-11 05:07 PM   #42 
  - Good for them for once. I'll continue to deride Islam also, along with Christianity and the rest. NT  devils chaplain   Sep-21-11 05:16 PM   #44 
  - Lol  Union Scribe   Sep-21-11 05:36 PM   #47 
     - Lol  devils chaplain   Sep-21-11 05:39 PM   #48 
        - The bell tells me there's hilarious dissonance afoot  Union Scribe   Sep-21-11 05:43 PM   #51 
           - The bell tells me there's hilarious dissonance afoot  devils chaplain   Sep-21-11 05:48 PM   #52 
  - Finally, something haters on both sides of the aisle can agree on.  Union Scribe   Sep-21-11 05:33 PM   #46 
  - It is acceptable for me too.  Throd   Sep-21-11 05:40 PM   #49 
  - I despise and will gladly insult any religion that relegates gay people to subhuman  Ben Gay   Sep-21-11 05:40 PM   #50 
  - When was it unacceptable to them?  hatrack   Sep-22-11 10:36 AM   #55 
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:19 PM
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1. As opposed to "Xtian"?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:08 PM
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19. You think this is comparable?
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 02:08 PM by dmallind
Using an abbreviation invented by the early church itself and still proudly referenced with innumerable chi-rho inscriptions on churches and documents throughout the world, is as insulting as calling the central holy figure a child molestor?

What the hell kind of persecution complex would equate those even in kind let alone degree?

I have no interest at all in placing Islam above reproach or disrespect, but to see any analogy here is insane.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:28 PM
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27. Seriously. The chi rho decorates every light fixture in the sanctuary of the church
I grew up attending. Taking offense to it is like saying, "My best friend's name is Robert. He also goes by Bob. But if YOU call him Bob, it is an insult akin to spitting on my mother's grave!"
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:49 PM
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35. And of course, there's no child molestation in large Christian organizations
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:19 PM
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2. I'm reccing this for a reason
Maybe someone, somewhere, will make the assclown who posted that have to 'Run like Rushdie'. Seriously - for thier ignorance they have it coming.
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:15 PM
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43. Not much says ignorance more than religion...
What a load of crap it all is, Islam included.

Maybe someone, somewhere, will make you have to 'Run like Osama'. Seriously - for your ignorance you have it coming.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:35 AM
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54. Oh
Phooey on you! Another miserable mean person sitting on the internet at DU for me to laugh at! :rofl:
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:25 PM
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3. Much like Christianity on DU. Do you object to that as well?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:26 PM
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4. Insulting a religion is Constitutionally-protected free speech. There are no blasphemy laws here...
...or in most religions including Christianity - Christians aren't supposed to blaspheme their own religion but are supposed to turn the other cheek when someone blasphemes Christianity.

Islam is different. Blasphemy is a high crime under Islamic law.

My Give-A-Shit-O-Meter is stuck on zero on this issue.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:27 PM
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5. Blasphemy is a victimless crime..nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:32 PM
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6. No, it's not even a crime in this country
It can't be a crime.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:34 PM
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8. I was making a profound statement that apparently was only profound
to this atheist. Sorry.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:50 PM
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36. not only is it profound and hermetic
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:31 PM
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45. Do most of your profound thoughts come from bumper stickers?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:34 PM
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7. I have no problem with insulting Islam or any other faith.
Religions are powerful and influential enough to shrug off any nasty things I or others may have to express about them or their followers.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:20 PM
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26. I agree. If there is anything in need of insult and derision it's religion.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:40 PM
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9. It is protected speech, I suppose,
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 01:41 PM by Blue_In_AK
but I personally find it very, very offensive. For the same reason that I don't condemn Christianity for the excesses of the far right, I don't condemn Islam for the excesses of their fundamentalists. Good people and assholes can be found in all religions and among atheists, as well. People should be judged (if they're judged at all) on their individual merits.

Too sensible an idea for Fox, I'm sure, but that's just my opinion.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:42 PM
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11. Except the New Testament has no tenets preaching violence or calling Jews "dogs."
Check the Q'uran.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:51 PM
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16. All of the so-called "holy" books were written by men.
As such, they're not perfect. Some Christians have used the words of Paul to bash GLBTs and people "living in sin." The Q'uran bashes Jews. The Old Testament bashes Philistines (or whoever happens to be in the way of the advancing Israelites). It's human nature to bash.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:57 PM
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17. The New Testament, Ma'am, Does Have Passages Calling Jews Children Of Satan
Among other things....
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:42 PM
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10. I insult islam
...I also insult christianity and judaism.

In fact - I insult any religion...as well as most anyone gullible enough to drink the kool-aid.

Religion is merely a way to soothe our fears of mortality and create social constraints to keep the masses in line.
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:48 PM
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15. but your not a major media figure or his representative
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:09 PM
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20. So....
...free speech applies to all.

Politically correctness has been a horrible failure. Say what you mean...
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:43 PM
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12. So what?
I see Christianity mocked daily on this site. Plus we have the first amendment.
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:47 PM
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14. i agree they have a right to do it
however its a little different when its the official forum of a major media figure.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:52 PM
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24. I'm guessing that
religion is bashed pretty effectively on Bill Maher's site also. I know he's not a news show but neither is hannity.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 01:46 PM
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13. I have no problem with Islam being insulted
I may have an issue with people insulting Muslims as individuals, but that's a different argument.

Exceptional claims require exceptional proof...why should (any) religion be given a pass?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:03 PM
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18. umm Islam is a religion, not a human, It cannot be insulted as it does not have personhood nt
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:28 PM
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21. it has been for years n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:30 PM
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22. What's wrong with insulting religions?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:37 PM
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23. All deity based religions should be insulted.....nt
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:02 PM
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25. It's not just acceptable, it's mandatory. No republican candidate will say a single kind word
about Islam. It's only a question of being more "anti-Muslim" than the other guy.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:29 PM
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28. You should do a search and see if that statement is true or not
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 04:43 PM
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40. I meant republican "presidential" candidate. And I have not heard of them say a kind word
about Islam.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:55 AM
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53. Even so
a quick search of the front-runner shows he has said kind things about Islam.

IMO, facts are more effective than opinions.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:34 PM
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29. What is wrong with insulting a fairytale? Islam and Christianity both need to be insulted.
The difference is that I can insult Christianity and it will make some people mad but that's about it. But if I insult Islam they are likely to put a death contract out on me.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:36 PM
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30. Good for them
It is absurd not to insult any religion. Except snake handling. Cause if you do that you and I have a problem.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:37 PM
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31. Islam is not protected or special
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 03:41 PM by quinnox
Yea, there might be some insane people who will declare a jihad on your ass if you dare insult Islam or the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), but that is their problem. They are brainwashed by terrorists. Of course that won't be of much comfort when you get blown to pieces by a terrorist bomb.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:42 PM
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32. Predictably, many here who support these offensive statements are borderline Ignore User members.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 03:43 PM by closeupready
Not sure what else to say except I'm K&R this thread.

(And on edit, I see that in fact, I do have a couple "Ignored"'s showing up.)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:57 PM
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37. yay ignore feature!


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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 04:04 PM
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38. LOL - When the thoughts posted collectively bear a striking resemblance to this:
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 04:06 PM by closeupready


Or this:



Who can blame Ms. Hear/See/Speak No Evil? :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 04:12 PM
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39. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:43 PM
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33. NOW acceptable?! When was it not?
Don't ever, EVER visit fox or those boards.
You'll fry your brain.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:45 PM
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34. Someone should do a random survey of the intelligence of self identified Muslims and Conservatives
then publicize the results.
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nomb Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 04:59 PM
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41. Islam is made up, it's just a cultural adaption of the "other" 2 great monotheistic religions
At least it's not made from whole cloth like Mormonism, from scratch.
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Ben Gay Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:43 PM
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That particular whole cloth is magic underwear...
:evilgrin:
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Abin Sur Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:07 PM
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42. Why *should* the moderator have a problem with it?
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:16 PM
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44. Good for them for once. I'll continue to deride Islam also, along with Christianity and the rest. NT
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 05:18 PM by devils chaplain
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:36 PM
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47. Lol
You find yourself allied with a bunch of Hannity goons...and that doesn't set off a bell in your head?
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:39 PM
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48. Lol
You find yourself allied with a bunch of Hannity goons for becoming enraged by those critical of Christianity... and that doesn't set off a bell in your head?
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:43 PM
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51. The bell tells me there's hilarious dissonance afoot
And to be sure to click on any thread about Islam here to see it. The bunch of you never fail to deliver, either. It's like you're PROUD of being so phobic, just like old Sean and the boys. But if you don't mind, I'll get my fingers out of your way now so as to keep all of them. Frenzy on!
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:48 PM
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52. The bell tells me there's hilarious dissonance afoot
And to be sure to click on any thread about Islam here to see it. The bunch of you never fail to deliver, either. It's like you're PROUD of being so phobic of atheism, just like old Sean and the boys. But if you don't mind, I'll get my fingers out of your way now so as to keep all of them. Frenzy on!
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:33 PM
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46. Finally, something haters on both sides of the aisle can agree on.
I share your dislike of that rhetoric, OP. Unfortunately, you should have known it would land too close to home here.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:40 PM
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49. It is acceptable for me too.
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Ben Gay Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:40 PM
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50. I despise and will gladly insult any religion that relegates gay people to subhuman
status...and that goes for Islam and pretty much all the "Christian" flavors. A pox on them all.
http://www.godisimaginary.com
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:36 AM
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55. When was it unacceptable to them?
:shrug:
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