The attacks from the left on Obama are getting more desperate.

[LoZoccolo]

[ThomWV]

1. ???????

[Whisp]

2. when Carvelle comes out of his slimely cave and starts spouting

how he is so much wiser than Obama,
yeh,
the whistle has been blown and they all are lined up ready for the shows and blogs to dispense the newest bullshit to be spread around these parts into the yaps and ears of the agape already ready to hear bad things about the President.

[democrank]

13. If you mean James Carville, he`s no leftie.

[Whisp]

21. no he isn't, but he plays one on tv

and is always handy to insult Obama's intelligence according to the Soup of the Day. His repugnacan wife feeds him his lines.

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[Arthur3284]

96. Carville said he needs to focus on jobs and indict the wall street criminals

What is so slimy about that? He's right. Obama's struggling and can use all the good advice he can get. What he does this last year will make or break him and dems for reelection. It's no time to get defensive with someone who's purportedly trying to help.

[leftstreet]

3. Wow. I read that as 'the attacks on the left from Obama...' almost K&R'd

[villager]

24. Wait -- you almost read this as an accurate header from this poster!?

;-)

[leftstreet]

26. lol

yep!

:-)

[Fumesucker]

4. Did you feel the same way about the left when they were attacking Bush?

Most Bush supporters did.

[LoZoccolo]

6. I don't think people had to be desperate to attack Bush*.

[Fumesucker]

12. That wasn't what I asked you...

What was your opinion of those on the left who were attacking Bush when you were one of his supporters?

Did you believe they were victims of BDS?

[LoZoccolo]

14. I'll say "yes" because I want to see what kind of freak-out you had planned.

[Fumesucker]

18. So you are one of those "swing voters" we hear so much about..

Thanks for admitting it.

[LoZoccolo]

20. I am disappointed.

[Wait Wut]

70. !

:rofl:

[Whisp]

7. Obama is not Bush

and anyone who thinks that has rocks in their heads.

[LoZoccolo]

9. And anyone who knows it's not true but says it anyways is a troll, right-wing or left.

[Fumesucker]

15. Are you calling me a troll?

I moved out from under the bridge months ago..

[LoZoccolo]

19. Are you implying that you say that Obama is the same as Bush* while knowing it's not true?

[Fumesucker]

25. Unlike some people I was never a Bush supporter..

Even when the thundering herd thought the Sun shone out of Bush's asshole I was one of the ten percent who knew he was full of shit.

[LoZoccolo]

28. If you want to insult 80% of the Democratic Party, you would have more reach with a new thread.

[Fumesucker]

34. Funny, I've heard that 80% number somewhere else lately..

Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

[LoZoccolo]

37. It's not an argumentum ad populum when you use statistics to show that someone is popular.

[Fumesucker]

39. It is when you use those statistics to try and show someone is correct..

[LoZoccolo]

41. About what do you think that I claim that Obama was correct using the statistics?

[Fumesucker]

45. A big percentage of your posts are certainly implying that..

That 80% number figures highly in a lot of your posts and we both know what it refers to.

"80% of liberal Democrats support Obama" with the strong implication being that if you aren't part of the 80% then you're wrong.

And yet 80% of liberal Democrats had their head stuck up their asses about Bush.

I just find it fascinating that one of the very strongest "STFU and support Obama" people on DU was at one time a Bush supporter.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

47. Is that your interpretation? I thought he was justifying his admitted support for Jr. with the 80%

number. Who knows anymore.



.

[LoZoccolo]

48. Of what specific Obama administration position(s) have I used statistics to prove their correctness?

[Fumesucker]

49. You can play semantic games all you wish..

You have already admitted that your track record of presidents that you support is far from good, you supported arguably the worst president ever and certainly the worst one of the last century.

Bush supporter's judgement isn't worth a bucket of warm spit.

[LoZoccolo]

50. Did you just say that 80% of the Democratic Party's judgement isn't worth a bucket of warm spit?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

36. A large percentage of the Democratic Party supported

segregation once too. Large groups of people can support all kinds of moronic and criminal things you know.

[LoZoccolo]

38. I did not use the number to prove a fact about Bush* other than that he was popular.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

40. You were trying to be clever but failed yet again. Your words are right there

for everyone to see Flamey.

[LoZoccolo]

43. I did not realize that this was not clever.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

44. "I did not realize".... yes, we know we know... nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

78. Quite a leap there.

Using segragation in a thread about Obama's support.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

91. You're the one making the leap here. The person I'm talking anout supported Jr. at

one point. Huge groups of people can support any shitty policy at one time or another. It doesn't make it right.

[Fumesucker]

10. Please show me where I said Obama is Bush..

Quotes would be nice..

[TheWraith]

67. People didn't have to make shit up in order to attack Bush.

Not the case with Obama.

[JuniperLea]

71. Exactly!

:applause:

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

79. Well said.

[Fumesucker]

103. Have you forgotten this OP of yours already?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1948157

Take a look at the last reply, it's mine.

[bitchkitty]

5. The attacks from supposed "Democrats" on the left are getting more stoopid. n/t

[valerief]

8. Kinda like your posts. nt

[LoZoccolo]

11. You do?

[demwing]

57. That's cute

In the same way that it's cute when a little kid tries to pronounce a word that's too big for his mouth.

Look at hims! So Cute!

[Wait Wut]

72. Agreed.

He drives people crazy. I like it. :hi:

[Number23]

74. Me too

I get more enjoyment out of the thrashing and wailing that a Lozo one line OP can generate than just about anything else in this forum.

For reasons I have truly not been able to understand, he brings out the extra strength manic crazy in some people. I get hiccups from laughing at the responses to his threads :rofl:

[hobbit709]

16. so is the cheerleading.

[fascisthunter]

17. your Flame Baiting is Desperation

wuz a mattuh... somebody in a bwad mood?

[mmonk]

22. What about the ones from the right?

[Mr Gerrity]

23. disagreement is one thing

but it does seem that to some, the President can do no right.

[RaleighNCDUer]

42. I don't know - seems to me he does 'right' pretty well. nt

[Caliman73]

100. nice...

:applause:

[Lucian]

27. So Democrats aren't allowed to "attack" Obama?

Democrats should stick with the party, not to a particular person. When that person doesn't stick up for party ideals, he (or she) should be "attacked."

[LoZoccolo]

30. They are not allowed to accuse his administration of anti-Semitism without a speck of evidence.

[Lucian]

32. Ah, so you get to dictate what people are allowed to do?

Interesting.

See, why didn't you put that in your message? As well as a link?

[NightWatcher]

29. Yay, another post with No Message. Thanks for sharing

Wow lookie here, all kinds of room to type information and paste links to news articles to support my assertions...

[Lucian]

31. Yeah, that poster never adds substance to anything.

It's mostly a hit and run one-line OP. I can't believe people still waste their time with him/her.

[LoZoccolo]

33. A hit-and-run thread is one where the OP does not reply to replies.

[Lucian]

35. Hence, "mostly."

[immoderate]

46. Getting really pissed off will do that to you.

Then I stop and ask, "What would Bush do?" and I know someone is taking care of business.

--imm

[deaniac21]

51. I like turtles.

[leftstreet]

64. Anyone remember a 'turtle' cookie recipe made with a waffle iron?

Chocolate, they had frosting. It'd be from waaaaay back

[NorthCarolina]

52. Are you a member of what you consider the left? Your posts generally seem quite desperate. nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

54. .

:rofl:

[xchrom]

53. From the bush support. Nt

[Pab Sungenis]

55. What? Did we beat him up and steal his lunch money this time?

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[Claudia Jones]

58. you sure hate the left

You consistently see the left as the enemy.

[LoZoccolo]

60. I actually didn't say anything about the left as a whole.

[Claudia Jones]

63. true

You don't actually say much of anything about anything.

[Rex]

77. Strange ain't it?

What is evern stranger is that he claims to be a liberal and so that leads one to wonder...

[WillyT]

59. The Rain In Spain Stays Mainly In The Plain...

Just thought you ought to know.

[yardwork]

61. Why isn't this in all caps?

[frylock]

73. RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!1

[Bluebear]

62. And you would say this as a Bush supporter

One of the 90%.

You sure do disdain "the left".

[Major Hogwash]

65. More desperate and more disconnected to reality.

Having been here for some time, it's odd that they aren't trumpeting what President Obama said today rather than reaching for their bullhorn shouting something incoherent.

The "I believe everything I read on the internet" crowd is akin to Glen Beck's audience.
Misinformed by people who aren't fair and balanced, desperately seeking attention.

[Bluebear]

87. LoZo and Major Hogwash, two peas in a pod

[Major Hogwash]

99. Better believe it.

I knew a long time ago that Obama was going to be re-elected.
The people that are haters don't see themselves as haters, they think they are patriots, just like the tea party assklowns.

But, it won't matter in the long run.
Because Obama will be re-elected anyway.

[WillyT]

66. Are You Sure This Isn't A Case Of Projection ???

I mean... I'm on the Left, and I don't feel desperate at all.

Disappointed, frustrated, confused, sometime furious... yeah..

Now, somebody who sees Obama as doing no wrong on the other hand...

:shrug:

[Major Hogwash]

75. Check out the Latest News section.

Might learn ya something.

[Rex]

86. And he is a self-professed liberal claiming to be attacking

lefty Obama haters...and not the left as a whole. Yet if you look at a handful of posters here, you would swear they are talking about the entire left. Funny how that works out.

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[Rex]

76. Yet you post threads where you praise the left and say you are a liberal.

You sure don't make any good sense when you look at your posting history. Just one long one-liner that does nothing positive. You need a new routine, this one is getting a little desperate on your part. :eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

81. I am only addressing attacks from the left, not the left itself.

[Rex]

83. You realize that doesn't sound credible right?

You are attacking the left, you said so in your OP. Nothing proves you are addressing attacks...that would require elaboration which you seem to be avoiding at all costs.

[LoZoccolo]

84. You just said yourself that that interpretation doesn't square with my past actions.

[Rex]

85. Wrong that is not what I posted.

And has nothing to do with the post. If you cannot support the left, then that is your problem. You have no consistency with your message so why you keep antagonizing the left is a mystery to most DUers.

[LoZoccolo]

88. Which word forms the subject of my one-sentence original post?

[Warren Stupidity]

93. It posted a thread where it noted that it praised Bush.

[Rex]

95. Kinda like a monobot.

Look it up you lazy people! :hi:

[Claudia Jones]

80. you are right - there is desperation

The left and more importantly the everyday people are in desperate straits.

Here is Glen Ford on that very subject -

Having humiliated and marginalized the core constituencies of the Democratic Party in his first term, Barack Obama calls upon these same groups to give him four more years. For most, it would be difficult to even find the words to refuse. The president's essential conservatism, masquerading as consensus-building and bipartisanship, has helped move "the parameters of the national political conversation to a narrow spectrum, that goes from Obama, the corporate, center-right Democrat, to the Tea Party, the corporate-financed white nationalists." Left Democrats are wholly adrift.

There was no push for a national jobs program in Obama's first year, despite good chances for passage, because Obama did not want one. Labor's most sought-after legislation, the card-check bill that might reverse the steady decline in union membership, got nowhere in the Democratic Congress, because Obama did not support it. Then, in the second year, he dropped even the pretense that jobs were a top priority, and began shouting like a Republican banshee about deficits and the need for "austerity." Blacks saw their futures flushed down the toilet while Obama dismissed them with nonsense about fictitious rising tides. Latinos, whose growing numbers are shaping America's future, watched while the Democrat that two-thirds of them voted for deported more immigrants than his Republican predecessor.

Who has Obama NOT betrayed, in the traditional Democratic base? The environmentalists got their education in Obamaism last week, when the president made the executive decision to stick with George Bush’s pollution standards, to great applause from big business.For those who were looking for a president who would stand up to Wall Street and the Pentagon, Obama has been a dismal failure. But for those on the Right whose mission in life is to utterly smash the power of Blacks and unions, Obama has been a godsend.

The Democratic base, to the extent that it votes, will vote for Obama in 2012, seeing him as the "lesser of evils." But he is, in fact, the "more effective evil," having done more damage to Democratic core constituencies than any Republican could dream of.

[Joe Fields]

82. Is this a communique from central command?

:rofl:

[pintobean]

89. And Leon is getting larger!

[Bluebear]

90. To the tower! Rapunzel!

[Recovered Repug]

94. Surely you can't be serious. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

98. Striker was the squadron leader. He brought us in real low. But he couldn't handle it.

Buddy couldn't handle it? Was Buddy one of your crew?

Right. Buddy was the bombardier. But it was Striker who couldn't handle it, and he went to pieces.

*Andy* went to pieces?

No. Andy was the navigator. He was all right. Buddy went to pieces. It was awful how he came unglued.

*Howie* came unglued?

Oh, no. Howie was a rock, the best tailgunner in the outfit. Buddy came unglued.

And he bailed out?

No. Andy hung tough. Buddy bailed out. How he survived, it was a miracle.

Then Howie survived?

No, 'fraid not. We lost Howie the next day.

[Warren Stupidity]

92. Has anyone successfully barbecued pizza?

[cherokeeprogressive]

97. Zounds like LoZo is.

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[Warren Stupidity]

102. It is a DU ritual.