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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:14 PM
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Gary Hart's "party of patriots" sounds like it involves monkey business.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 06:20 PM by LoZoccolo
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:16 PM
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1. Aren't you clever?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:17 PM
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2. But thnk of the comedy gold...nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:12 PM
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:20 PM
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18. +1 nt
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:52 PM
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20. Like the OP?
More like comedy rusty iron.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:22 PM
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3. Think so, huh? I know I'm pissed and it's clear I have a *LOT* of company.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:23 PM
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4. -1 Lame
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:28 PM
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5. somebody feels threatened
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:30 PM
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7. He did look a little bit overwhelmed.
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:29 PM
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6. Sen. Hart's weakness was hubris. Do you think Obama's team suffers from hubris?
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:31 PM
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8. They suffer from pudding pants. nt
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:50 PM
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11. +1 nt
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:38 PM
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9. Too bad you can't threaten to primary Hart.
All of this talk about a Party of Patriots would end by next weekend.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:45 PM
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:59 PM
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12. Don't worry about it, LoZo. It doesn't look like your services are needed there
Please click here.

Those not welcome: those who are dogmatic, self-satisfied, and closed-minded . . . the humorles.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:10 PM
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13. Gary Hart stood up to the Nixon-Reagan-Poppy crew.
Unlike too-few Democratic leaders since.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:19 PM
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17. Which is why he had to be silenced by whatever means needed.
The man never took a dime from a PAC and mortgaged his house to run for President in '84.

The final insult was after he rejoined the campaign in '88 and was leading in the polls, the MSM reported a patently false story that his campaign had been "secretly funded". It was total BS, but he tanked in Iowa as a result. To much MSM noise killed that campaign.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:12 PM
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21. Oh please. He arrogantly dared the press to find his affair, and they did.
That's why his campaign tanked, he looked like a giant hypocrite and an idiot.
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:12 PM
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24. Times change. That's old news today. The new news is that 22% of workers are un or underemployed &
sick to death of politics as usual.

A pox on both their houses is the prevailing sentiment in my neck of the woods.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:46 AM
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26. You are very right.
That's old news, and he is old news.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:53 AM
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28. Please educate yourself about the old WRONG MSM propaganda against Hart.
There is what you remember, then there are the facts, and the facts are stubborn things. When Hart declared in again in New Hampshire in December 1987, he went back to the lead in the national polls. The "secretly funded" rumor along with his actual funding problems ultimately sank that campaign. He had no money to get his message out over the MSM noise. The MSM created the "scandals", and then reported on what they had created.

Hart had already been followed in Dec. 1986, BEFORE he announced in 1987 after giving the party response to President Reagan's weekly radio address:

Mr. Sweeney said he was told that the detective's report traced Mr. Hart's movements from about noon Dec. 20 (1986) when Mr. Hart, a former Senator from Colorado, was seen driving to radio station WTOP in suburban Virginia, where he presented the Democratic radio response to President Reagan's weekly radio address. Mr. Hart was followed back to the District of Columbia and was seen later in the afternoon entering a bookstore.

That evening Mr. Hart was followed from his Capitol Hill town house to downtown Washington.



http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/07/us/hart-s-link-to-2d -...

Gary Hart has denied challenging the media to try to catch him doing anything, and that full story has never really been told:

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/gary-hart-on-sca ...

Donna Rice is the former girlfriend of Hart supporter Don Henley. The two had not met before she was brought by a friend to meet Hart on the dock. When he learned she was a friend of Henley's she was invited onboard. The trip was scheduled for a campaign strategy planning and speech writing.

The Miami Herald's Tom Fiedler admitted to reading this quote on the plane on the way to D.C., after the Herald had been pursuing this story for weeks, and only after two other Knight-Ridder where already in the street spying on Hart. More likely, with the way the New York Times is distributed, he read this quote after arriving in D.C. For the Herald to write that they had followed Hart around, which they didn't, in response to his "challenge" was another Herald cheap shot, since it was demonstrably false. The Miami Herald did not follow Gary Hart anywhere. They hid in his bushes and were peeking in his windows.

Donna Rice Hughes, who now devotes herself to combating children accessing pornography on the internet, has always been a class act. She never made any money from the "scandal", which was laughable in light of those which have followed. Both she and Senator Hart have always denied that their relationship had been sexual. (The recent Rupert Murdoch phone hacking scandal may also shed some light on how Fiedler's anonymous caller knew so much information about her plane reservations.)

The person spreading the rumors that Senator Hart "couldn't keep his pants on", was none other than Clinton operative James Carville. Carville's job then was to sabotage the Hart campaign after Bill Clinton had been rejected as Hart's potential VP. That was the real story behind the alleged anonymous phone call to the Miami Herald in 1987. (See above at post 41.)

Should Senator Hart choose to enter the primaries, NO ONE will care about what happened in 1987, especially since he and his wife have now been married for over 50 years. In all of his time in public life NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAS COME FORWARD TO CLAIM THAT SHE HAD A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

More here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:14 PM
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15. But is Donna Rice Hughes aboard? n/t
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 07:15 PM by msanthrope
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:19 PM
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16. Well if you're worried about him loco, maybe there's a possibility he'll run.
Heck, he's better than what we've got.
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Tom Ripley Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:49 PM
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19. Sorry about the flop sweat
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:23 PM
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22. Life would be awful for conservatives if liberals started standing up for themselves, huh?
Don't worry. I have hankies and I'm good at helping people blow their wittle noses when they're crying.
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Whats_Happening Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:58 AM
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27. Hart vs. Mondale in '84 is analogous to Obama vs. Clinton in '08 --
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 01:02 AM by Whats_Happening
Hart was Mr. Hope-and-Change.

Hart energized the Democratic yuppies (sure, they used to be known for drinking Chablis and eating Brie rather than drinking microbrews and eating arugula, but it's the same thing.) Hart had the college kids. Hart was Mr. Just-words-just-speeches. Hart was the beefless one. Hart was Mr. Cool.

The difference? Whoever was the Dem. nominee in '84 was going to lose; whoever was the Dem. nominee in '08 was going to win.

Don't go down this road, LoZoc --

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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:56 AM
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29. BS ALERT! Gallup polls showed Hart beating Reagan in 1984. NT
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