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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:35 PM
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Regardless of what President Obama says in his speech, somebody is going to be pissed.
The hype is already going full force. You can almost split the reactions into groups: not enough, too much, caving in, etc. It is almost like a soap opera. I've read about ten versions of what he might say.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:36 PM
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1. Yup
I can about imagine how it's going to go already. Heck, it's already up and running! :eyes:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:36 PM
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2. Most of them have already decided to be pissed
And will interpret accordingly. Even if he gives the speech they would have written, it will be "just words."
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:42 PM
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6. And why do you think that is? MAYBE because we've been sold down the river
on every single issue he's encountered since he's taken office.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:45 PM
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8. +1
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:49 PM
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9. Let's just list all of those with the perception of being sold down the river and you will see the
crowded field:

African American unemployed
labor
progressives
immigrants
environmentalist
lgbt community
wall street
trolls
complainers
you
educators
spongebob
elmo
mickey mouse
and every group that feels slighted because their agenda has not been addressed.

Why in the world would anybody compete for that job? It is a walking heart attack.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:52 PM
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11. Oh poor little president Obama, I feel so sorry for the leader of the free world.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:53 PM
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12. I doubt that he needs your pity.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:57 PM
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14. I am responding to your
cry-baby post. He certainly does not need my pity - he is doing just fine for himself as he works for the people who hired him.

Thankfully labor is calling him on his bullshit.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:54 AM
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26. You don't think the job is hard?
Not surprising. You think it's like being a king and he can do whatever he wants. No the President is not "leader of the free world." That stupid expression is one of my pet peeves. It embodies all that people misinterpret as to the leader of the executive branch of the US federal government. You just want a benign dictator. Dictators are never benign by the time they are done. Better to have limited and divided powers.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:21 PM
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15. kick to mark to be able to look you up later and see your interpretation of the speech.
Betcha it'll be negative.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:30 PM
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16. If "georgia works" is his interpretation of a good jobs program, you
can bet the bank it'll be negative.

My beef isn't with the president personally, it is with capitalism. He's in his spot doing what his handlers want him to do.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:42 PM
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7. Nothing will fit their undefined "Go big" demand.
No matter what he says, it won't be "Big" ... whatever they mean by "Big" will be defined after the speech, not before.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:55 AM
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27. Yes, exactly. As will "bold" and "brave" and "ballsy."
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:12 PM
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20. And there are others who have already decided to go on defense
and launch pre-emptive whine attacks about the mean old liberals online.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:55 AM
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28. Because supporting Democratic politicians is so evil
and wrong and unprogressive. :sarcasm:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:15 PM
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22. +1...
I should have read the whole thread before posting.

:hi:

Sid
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:56 AM
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29. ++1
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:40 PM
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3. He had to know the Resistance he would receive ,stop Appeasing
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:42 PM
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5. Even some resistance in unthought of places is shocking. Get my drift? nt
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:41 PM
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4. Well for once it would be great if republicans were pissed -
I'd love if he would send a strong enough message that he's pro-labor (and actually creating jobs that pay money).
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:54 PM
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13. No! No! No! Can't piss off the Republicans...
Much better to piss off the left in your own Party. That will make it easier to get a bi-partisan agreement.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:51 PM
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10. the media is creating speech hysteria...it's such bullshit. where is the republican jobs plan?
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 02:52 PM by spanone
they got elected to the house on the bullshit that they would create jobs....the media has strangely forgotten that....
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JNinWB Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:16 PM
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17. Halfway intelligent individuals realize that expectations are pure fantasies
Formula: Expectations = Fantasies.
Expectations are not REAL, just something conjured in your imagination.

For example:
Expectation: Obama should "go big" in his Jobs' Speech

Actuality: Obama fails to "go big" in the speech

Result: Obama has failed and betrayed you

See how this works: Every time Obama doesn't live up to your expectations (fantasies) he is a failure. It doesn't matter what he accomplishes, because he has betrayed you and your values. He betrayed you with the Public Option, the Stimulus, the continuation of the Bush Tax Cuts, etc. etc. It does not matter that the expectations/fantasies were unrealistic, Obama has been a dismal failure.
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:15 PM
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23. We should have no expectations of our leaders?
You didn't even qualify it with "some expectations," you just seem to be arguing that we should accept what we're given and never assume anything could have been done better. What a miserable democracy you must imagine around you.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:20 PM
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18. Yep, comes with the job
nt.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:01 PM
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19. It's a big deal when the POTUS speaks. People will react. This is life.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:14 PM
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21. Some are already pissed. They''re speculatively pissed...nt
Sid
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:16 PM
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24. ...and some are already prepared to fight for him as for a loved one.
Creepy, really.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:30 PM
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25. Caving....
I wonder what people whose primary complaint is that Obama has "caved" and appeared weak would say that if he suddenly met each and every one of their demands.

Would it be "caving" if he suddenly gave in and followed Krugman's instructions?
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