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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:11 PM
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What's wrong with telling the truth about the Republicans??
Wouldn't that be the right thing to do for our country?

Why should we pretend some type of utopian bi-partisanship with these people? They are bad for our people and our country. Why cannot the President and the Congress find the words to describe them?

They don't have the best interests of our country at heart. They lie and distort the facts. They manipulate their message through the American media propaganda machine. They threaten Social Security and Medicare. They threaten to not give unemployment assistance to those without work. They want more taxcuts for the wealthy. They run up the debt and destroy the economy and the blame someone else. Then when it is not possible to clean up their mess, they point their fingers and call the Democrats incompetent. The truth might hurt but it needs to be told.

Now, more than ever. It is not a time to play nice.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:35 PM
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1. There's a lot to tell
and it's all bad.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:37 PM
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2. And it must be told...
We should not assume that the voters know. The truth must be told. Everyone must know.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:42 PM
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3. What is wrong?
People of a certain ilk always use republican bullshit to beat democratic leaders bloody. I have once to see a member of your ilk launch a full bore no holds barred attack on republicans, it is always the democratic leaders that are somehow at fault when your logic is distilled to it's bare essentials.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:47 PM
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6. and I think your ilk...
...are full of Republican bullshit...weasly and spineless and destructive to our Party.

Just a quid pro quo.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:25 PM
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7. The only problem with your logic is that I give republican no quarter.
I hate the bastards with a passion. Reading every one of my posts would confirm that to the open minded, very unlike reading of your posts, which without fail are attacks on democrats.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:48 PM
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10. I believe in demanding a lot from my Party...
especially when they are slacking in their duties. I do not give a free ride to them. They have to earn my support. It is not automatic. I have been as passionate against the Republicans as anyone but that does not mean I cannot or should not criticize Democrats when they are not doing their job. I think you are doing a disservice to our Party by not demanding more from them. Just my opinion.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:05 PM
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13. You have clearly stated you are a Socialist, that is not a democrat.
Sorry. I demand a lot from the democratic party, but under no circumstances will I actively attack it in a way that provides aid and comfort to republicans.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:09 PM
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14. I am a democratic socialist...
But we will just have to disagree. I happen to believe you are giving aid and comfort to the Republicans when you watch the Democratic Party go in the wrong direction, a losing direction, and you say nothing. You are not helping the Democrats, you are helping the Repubs, in my opinion.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:12 PM
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15. But you follow Obama and Obama does little but give Republicans quarter..
If Obama would stop using Republican framing and Republican phraseology perhaps he could differentiate himself a bit more from those very same Republicans whose words he likes to use.

Why do you not attack Obama for constantly giving Republicans quarter?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:22 PM
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18. They do come out of the woodwork don't they?
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Claudia Jones Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:30 PM
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19. your remarks here are not credible
If you truly opposed the Republican agenda you would see Kentuck as an ally, not as an enemy. The two positions you are taking are not consistent with one another. In fact, they are mutually contradictory.

The only rational reason to oppose the Republicans is for the purpose of opposing the Republican agenda, or to state it more accurately, the agenda of those for whom the Republicans carry water. Claiming to support Democrats and oppose Republicans, while at the same time failing to oppose the agenda of the people for whom the Republicans work and then attacking those who do speak out against that agenda is what enables the Republicans and weakens the Democratic party.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:32 PM
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23. People of your ilk constantly attack dems on DU. n/t
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evilDonkey Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:45 PM
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4. Wall Street paymasters
The Repugs work for their paymasters on Wall Street, but to be honest the Democrats aren't any different. The entire system is corrupt.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:45 PM
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5. Adlai Stevenson had the right idea. I only wish he had learned to play hardball
I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. - Adlai Stevenson
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:27 PM
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8. The truth has a well-known liberal bias
Just ask the Republicans.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:28 PM
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9. If they were reasonable colleagues, proposing reasonable things, we could be collegial. They're not.

They are quite literally, trying to kill people to put an unlimited supply of wealth and power in the trough for an organized group of wealthy influences, with a specific, destructive plan to screw everyone, and they are selling it with a mixtures of lies and insanity.

You can't shake hands with a rattlesnake.

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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:48 PM
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11. Reasonable Republicans are a dying breed...
all the sane ones are booted out of the tent. The older ones that remember Ike are dying off. Ike was the last good Republican leader. They started allowing the zealots in during the Reagan years. Now the tea partiers have taken over and they are just a more unwashed toothless version of Republicans with a big bark and no real message.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:56 PM
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12. Always tell the truth about Republicans and those who enable
them by refusing to speak the truth and thus promoting the Republicans by promoting their policy and playing down their radicalism.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:16 PM
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16. Why don't we?
Why here are there so many posts just blaming the Ds for the Rs bullying, childish behavior and cruel positions on the issues?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:21 PM
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17. I think you are confusing the criticism or "blame"...
I don't think most of these folks are blaming the Democrats for the Repub's "bullying, childish behavior and cruel positions on the issues". I think they are blaming the Democrats for not fighting back against these Republican attacks. Some Democrats expect a little more self defense from the Party. If they cannot be talked into defending themselves, what else can they do? Just let them continue getting the shit kicked out of them?
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:20 PM
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20. K&R
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:59 PM
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21. Nothing wrong with telling the truth
Even when the republicans hate the truth because it undermines their 'plans' to destroy democracy .
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:26 PM
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22. A Massive Understatement!
I mean really democratic politicians what the fuck? Is it that you like being screwed by the Republicans? I mean what the hell folks??

I guess this goes under the category of the elephant in the room. Apparently you can't talk about them because somehow they represent a vested interest of the system.
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