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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:17 AM
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Sorry Kids, President Obama Backs Down On Ozone Standards
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 09:19 AM by Better Believe It

Sorry Kids, President Obama Backs Down On Ozone Standards

President Obama Backs Down On Ozone Standards
By Stephen Lacey and Joe Romm
September 2, 2011

UPDATE 1: Obamas decision to do nothing on ozone pollution is actually worse than what the Bush-Cheney Administration proposed. See Brad Plumers WashPost piece, Did the White House double-cross its supporters on the smog rule?

UPDATE 2: I was on Keith Olbermanns Countdown tonight on this and will post a video when its available.

The administrations fecklessness is no doubt based on some crass political (mis)calculation. But in fact the standard would not have any noticeable negative impact on the economy and, if anything, would have driven investment and innovation even in the short term. The biggest uncertainty businesses have now is what the heck will Obama do next? since the President appears to have no coherent and consistent philosophy guiding his economic and environmental decisions.

And as for how this plays out with the voters, its one more move that disempowers a core constituency. It also misses a chance to win over the biggest block of independent voters, those who want to preserve clean air and clean water for their kids. As a May Pew poll found, 71% of Americans say This country should do whatever it takes to protect the environment.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/11/02/206970/climate... /

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:18 AM
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1. K&R nt
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:19 AM
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2. Clean air is for WUSSES!
Inhalers ROOL!

:sarcasm:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:20 AM
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3. Hey, look at the bright side, they won't get skin cancer from UV while they're choking on smog..
:eyes:


Yes, I know ozone at low altitudes is not the same thing as the ozone layer..

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:23 AM
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6. Think of the Medicare and SS savings, they will all be dead before they
can collect. A republican wet dream!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:21 AM
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:22 AM
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5. People who breathe never really loved him!
:cry:
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:23 AM
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7. Easily fixed, folks
Just clap louder, yell "Yes We Can" and the pollution will just blow away!

WOOT!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:26 AM
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8. Heh, I was thinking of a more.. umm.. permanent solution..
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:36 AM
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11. I see someone's still holding a grudge.
What was your 'pony' - Equal Rights?

:silly:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:53 AM
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14. I am jealous of his beauty, just like Paul Krugman.*
* Yes, someone actually said here that Krugman was critical of Obama's economic policies because Obama was so dreamy he surely got a lot of girls in college, while Krugman, being a big geek, surely got few or no girls in college, thus engendering a fierce, undying jealousy.

This is what personality cultism does to people.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:07 AM
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17. That has to be one of the most pathetic statements I've seen on DU.
And the fact that we're on a thread where people are saying "clean air = pony" completely blows my mind... :wow:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:15 AM
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19. Until that day, I thought I had seen everything.... n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:25 AM
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:56 AM
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23. Wow
That beats even the dumbest Bush hero worship from back in the day.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:24 PM
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24. It's kinda of like G. Gordon Liddy rhapsodizing over Bush's "manly characteristic,"
but with a touch of junior high cattiness thrown in.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:27 AM
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9. Sorry kids, the country fucked up by electing idiots to congress,
so any and everything falls by the wayside as a president with no congressional support tries to stand between the economy and the abyss ... while the republicans are pulling on the ropes to pull the economy over the cliff and the democrats stand by and whimper.

Kids, it's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better. Enjoy the National Parks while you can, they won't be here much longer. Enjoy living in a house while you still can, if you're parent(s) is/are unemployed - you'll be on the street soon enough. Oh and make sure you learn your Bible verses for your public school class every day.

It is so much worse than an ozone regulation, folks. And the blame goes far beyond one person.
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tgal Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:01 PM
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26. Dems have the Pres and Senate
They CAN speak UP AND OUT and they DON'T.

"kids", those who believe he has no power with rethugs controlling ONE branch of government.

tgal


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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:13 PM
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27. These were administrative agency REGULATIONS, over which O had TOTAL control
There is NO reason he caved on this except big bucks from the American Petroleum Institute.

On top of that he stalled court action by environmental groups for TWO YEARS by PROMISING THEM HE AND HIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD PUT THESE NEW REGULATIONS IN PLACE.

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:10 PM
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28. You just don't understand: Obama is the greatest leader in history
but he is utterly powerless.

No, it doesn't make any sense to me either, but that's what people have been telling me for a while now.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:34 AM
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10. Don't worry kids,
you can get a smog Pony!

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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:40 AM
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12. ...
:thumbsup:
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:46 AM
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13. We may not have left you any clean air, but we do have plenty of crushing debt
for you.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:05 AM
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15. "Not A Dime's Worth Of Difference Between......"
(Clear throat and repeat)
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:06 AM
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16. Read this:
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:07 AM
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18. Wait! Update 2!?!
You know that this means that you are in the professional Left and therefore cannot be trusted, right?

:sarcasm:

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:23 AM
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20. "What the heck will Obama do next?" Answer: whatever he's paid to do.
Gotta keep those Citizens United/corporate bucks rolling in to meet his $billion dollar campaign goal!
If a man whose daughter has asthma sells out on air pollution, it's safe to say that where he's concerned,
everything is on the table.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:41 AM
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22. Change We Can Believe In
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:50 PM
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25. "I don't trust air I can't see." - Bill Russell
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:23 PM
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30. Or cut with a knife!
Now if...cough cough...you'll excuse me...cough...I have to...cough...go hack up a...cough...lung
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:15 PM
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29. "is actually worse than what the Bush-Cheney Administration proposed"
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:35 PM
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31. The media is NOT reporting on the REASONS WHY Obama had the rule sent back to EPA
A copy of the LETTER Sunstein send to the EPA

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USEOPWHPO/20...

The letter on the above link explains WHY President Obama had the rule sent back to the EPA for reconsideration.


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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:39 PM
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32. Every one of your OP's is anti Obama. nt
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:42 PM
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33. What Obama HAS done for our environment
Cleaner Air and a Stronger Economy A Record of Success
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/02/cleaner-air-a...

And THREE pages over at Politifact on the link below of Obama's 2008 campaign promises Kept and In the Works regarding the Environment
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obamet... /


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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:44 PM
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34. Most disappointing story I heard this week. It's sad the WH has such FUBARed priorities. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:45 PM
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35. Shut up and hack.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:45 PM
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36. If we don't cough loud enough, Tinkerbell will die! n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:46 PM
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37. K&R
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:22 PM
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38. Well you know, less clean air to breath
more people dying, less to have to give SS/Medicare to ... problem solved. x(
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:12 AM
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41. Never thought of it that way!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:24 AM
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39. "President Obama Backs Down"
Is that the most frequent statement of this administration or what?
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:30 AM
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40. Me and my wife are out

We'll work for good Democrats in local races, but we're finished with Obama (me more than her, she still likes him...i like him, but dont believe in him).

He is a fraud. And if a far-right party gets elected, maybe that will illuminate what they are about.

Us Dems sit around and let the fascists define who we are and our national party doesn't do shit, but bend over and make apologies whenever one of our guys actually calls bullshit.

Im tired of it...I voted third party in 1992 and again in 2000 (before I was fully Liberal)...and I'll do it again in 2012.
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