The most effective tools the GOP uses to hurt Obama...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 04:07 PM by Sheepshank
Is not yelling "you Lie", or putting cross-hairs on Democrats, or even calling people "treasonous". That only causes that individual to garner long term derision...even from their own.
Nope, their most effective tool is a consistent and concerted effort to thwart all of Obama's attempt at positive governing...without screaming, ranting and public name calling. By effective use of policy and the political process.
It IS their most powerful tool that is most difficult to re-direct.
Yet, here on DU, on a daily basis, I read people who want Obama to create something that doesn't work. They want Obama to publicly bully, name call, threaten the GOP into something they have the political clout to ignore. Obama would end up looking like a raging, black, fool and will have gained nothing in the process.
12. Well there is a ring of truth to it in some cases
but overuse of the race card is not going to win friends and influence people. Parties disagree, and within parties there is disagreement. The divide is not unseen in American history, and it was likely worse if you go back to other times of change in our country.
14. I mentioned black, because I do believe this plays into T.E.A. thinking.
In addition, on a previous thread I'd read someone posing the scenario of an angry Obama coming across as an "angry black man" to the Reps, and it is something he seems to taking great pains to avoid. I apparently agree with the idea that it's not the type of 'image' Obama cultivates.
Personally, I see a President who is attempting to deal with a Congress that doesn't want to do anything at all. Not a spot I'd like to be in. American Presidents have very little real power in such a situation. It's how the system was designed. There was so much fear of an individual having too much control that they engineered a system that gave the executive a very limited role.
We're seeing one of the results that arrangement can cause. Too bad. We can, however, correct the problem if we have the will and persistence to do so. I'm not optimistic, though, based on what I'm reading here since 2009. Not optimistic at all. That won't stop me from trying, but...
47. what people dont seem to get is that its precisely
the road he's taken, that is setting the republicans up for annihilation by the masses of people. The only way to do that is to document that they are assholes. The only way to make the record for all to see that they are assholes, is to continually offer to include them, to try for bi-partisanship. If the masses of people want to ignore it because of their individual ponies, and I'm talking about both sides, left and right, then we have no one but ourselves to blame.
I mean, really, Obama is doing the best job I've ever seen, of documenting how traitorous the right wing is. It's out there plain as day for everybody to see.
The moment he starts fighting the way people here want him to do, he loses the whole argument.
The whole world gets it, except us Americans.
If the American people choose to elect the gop in the face
of such exposure, I don't see how Obama or democrats can be blamed.
It's the people . At least Obama has given the entire range of nonrich classes, the same ground to coalesce on, no matter what their color, religion, political orientation, etc. If the nonrich glasses realized that under the present political climate, the only way to get anything done, is to try giving all the power to democrats, then we'll see the change everybody is claiming Is a fraud.
I think he's doing things the right way under the circumstances. That's what I expected when I voted for him. And that's why I'm voting for him again. ay under the
52. not at all. He is not what you see, you are very wrong.
He is a President with good character, for one thing. Which was the last one with that? I'd say Jimmy Carter, he was a mature grown up too.
He is a calm person - I know some of you want theatrics and jumping up and down with froth spilling out of his mouth but that is not going to happen, ever.
He is dealing with some of the worst possible situations and is doing a better job at handling it than anyone else possibly could in that situation - I think any of the others that he primaried with would have run off in tears and frustration by now.
He is a hard worker, a good husband, a great dad, a wonderfull friend and brother and the best President we could possibly have in these strange and dangerous times we are in.
So with all those bad and angry feelings you have toward him, those feelings of blame, that need to tear him down rather than help him up
- there are many many more of us than of you. And he knows.
but whatever. You've obviously got an axe to grind with people who want Obama to stand up to the GOP. So, what you're saying is, you'd rather have him continue to be milquetoast, rather than play their game on a level field. Yeah, gee, that will work out well.
when during the 49 days that Obama had a majority was it a supermajority? A filibuster proof majority of anything? When did he ever have 100% of the blue dogs voting with the rest of the Dems to pass a policy?
Thanks in advance for your attempt at that research tid bit.
16. Then take it away from them and go after their evil asses hammer and tongs.
Indict their failed ideology in the court of public opinion, investigate their abuses, paint the picture bright and clear, tell the truth about the bastards, cease and desist with assimilating their counter-productive policies, and get a wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it and be done with the Mister Rodgers routine because that bullshit only works in the Neighborhood of Make Believe.
King Friday has no jurisdiction over the traitorous terrorists nor will Obama's farcical strategy cajole them or motivate voters to replace them.
41. He's presented with legislation all the time. Bills require siging by the executive.
The Democrats introduce the bills then cave to the Republicans and water them down. Obama then signs them and declares victory. He should try vetoing the watered down bills instead of caving...as usual.
28. I do not want the president to bully or name call.
I want him to take a stand for the principles his party has long stood for and point out, without name-calling, just who the obstructionists are and what their motives are. And to do so as often as possible. One can be very pointed and critical while remaining civil.
32. yes I agree...but that does become a judgement call though, don't you think?
I've seem Obama make the pointed statement that puts Boehner and the GOP in their place. Still grin at the "car in the ditch, and they want the keys back" analogy. The GOP hated that one. We've seen congratulatory threads on DU before, on that very same topic. But inevitably DU gets the "he didn't yell loud enough, he's not showing enough anger, he's not pounding the pulpit"" crowd, crowing for all it's worth.
51. So where are the effective tools of the Democratic party?
Why can't they gain traction with a consistent, concerted effort to thwart the GOP's toddler tantrum approach to governance? Does the GOP have a lock of the effective use of policy and the political process?
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