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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 03:44 PM
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The Triple Crisis... Maybe It's Time For A "Human Spring" ???
Edited on Sun Aug-28-11 03:54 PM by WillyT
The European sovereign debt crisis is little more than a huge ‘bait and switch’ perpetrated on the publics of Europe, by their governments, on behalf of their banks. We need to remember that what we refer to today as the ‘European Sovereign Debt Crisis’ began as a private sector financial crisis back in 2008, when ‘too big to fail banks,’ writing deep out of the money options on taxpayers, quite unexpectedly (to some) blew up. Fearing a financial Armageddon, governments transformed private bank debt into public debt via bailouts, lost revenues, lower growth, higher transfers, and yawning deficits. The unavoidable result across the European continent was a massive increase in government debt. While painting this as a story of fiscal irresponsibility has some plausibility in the Greek case, it simply isn’t true for anyone else. The Irish and the Spanish, I and S in the eponymous ‘PIGS’ were, for example, considered ‘best in neoliberal class’ in terms of debts and deficits until the crisis hit. Public debt is a consequence of the financial crisis, not its cause.


More: http://triplecrisis.com/how-to-turn-a-continent-into-a-subprime-cdo/


The nations of the Eurozone have two choices here: either let their big banks fail under the weight of their leverage, or radically restructure their societies and social compacts at the expense of their people, in order to protect their banks. So far, most Eurozone nations are choosing the latter.

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But as the financial sector continues to careen further and further out of control worldwide, the challenge faced by sovereigns worldwide is this: either become subservient entities to the global financial institutions that truly govern the fates of the world's citizens, or reassert their authority and independence while allowing reckless banking institutions to fail.

Most nations are choosing the former, both because they lack the courage to do the latter, and because they lack the vision to imagine what kind of system might need to be created in a post-too-big-to-fail world. The world's economies are now massively interdependent, with most of those interdependencies lubricated by liquidity provided by the big banks.


More: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/big-choice-by-david-atkins.html

Found Thru: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/28/1011380/-Midday-open-thread?via=blog_1

:wtf:

:mad:

:nuke:

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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 03:55 PM
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1. Tommy said somthing about that.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 03:58 PM
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2. Thanks For The Link !!! - Bookmarking...
:yourock:

:hi:
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:04 PM
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3. That's it. A human springtime
with massive general strikes in every metropolis from Rome to Washington.

I can see it coming...
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 05:18 PM
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4. Should Have Posted The Intro...
<snip>

This triple crisis post Digby referenced yesterday may be the most important thing anyone interested in politics and economics may read for a long time. There are too many important points in the article to summarize in a neat block, so I won't even try. Interested readers need to consume the whole thing several times. Those who aren't already knowledgeable about such things might require a brief primer on CDOs (collateralized debt obligations) and CDS (credit default swaps) to really understand it, but it's worth it.

<snip>

Link: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/big-choice-by-david-atkins.html

:shrug:


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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 06:06 PM
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5. Interesting.
Thanks for sharing.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 06:24 PM
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6. Anytime My Man...
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:yourock:

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:04 PM
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7. "Most nations are choosing the former,
both because they lack the courage to do the latter, and because they lack the vision to imagine..."

Not exactly.
Most "government officials" choose the former (Bailing Out the Banks in opposition to their citizens demands) to protect their personal investments, income from graft, and future employment in these criminal institutions.

....same as the old USA!
:patriot:


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:07 PM
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8. Well... There Is That...
:shrug:

:hi:
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