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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:19 AM
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NEWS ALERT ON IRENE
From Wavy.com in the Hampton Roads area!


"we just received word that a male, female and cat were rescued from a sailboat in Norfolk"


Whew, thankfully the cat is okay. Darwin didn't put him there, the owners did.


This is just more hype and sensationalism on one DUD of a storm. My friend, who owns a pawn shop, is heading home. He was inundated with people pawning stuff because they feared the end of the world was coming from the EPIC storm of the century.


Anyway, I wanted to pass along the information on the cat being rescued. I heard a nail was missing from someone's gutter in Virginia Beach, but that story I haven't been able to confirm as of yet.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:26 AM
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1. Uh...You haven't gotten
nearly the worst of it yet. Hope it stays like that though. Just sayin'...
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:31 AM
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2. The max sustained forecast winds for Virginia beach
have dropped below 60, which will be later today for a brief period of time.

Norfolk is at 50 max on the forecast.


We had 70mph winds plus in several thunder boomers that rolled through this year.

It's a bit breezy, sure. Not expected to get much higher. Stay indoors and ride it out. Stay away from the ocean water.

Other than that, the 11am report is soon to come. I wouldn't be surprised to hear it has dropped out of hurricane wind speed territory. At 8am as it hit land it was at 85, but in a very small area. The media weather hucksters down there in the outer banks were clearly disappointed when they were standing in the wind and rain and looked at the wind speed indicator and it was a paltry 47mph. I laughed my ever loving ass off.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:48 AM
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9. Current wind is at 85, with a tornado warning in Norfolk and VA Beach. nt
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:13 AM
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25. Looking at it another way, though:
Not an exact science -- better safe than sorry. Also too, the repukes want to defund NOAA. Personally I'm not bothered by the amount of hype, as I also saw someone explain where the taxpayers' money is going. If we're lucky, the repukes will back off defunding NOAA, particularly those who are going to have to ask for fed dollars ... Here in Kansas, I'm in tornado alley. If they were to start dismantling tornado sirens at some point, I would be screwed.

just one woman's opinion.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:39 AM
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3. Looks like a big rain storm
Not really much goin on, other than the media has East Coaster scared out of their homes.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:39 AM
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4. although the media over hypes things and even though ..
.... the storm is weaker than expected the volume of water it carries will no doubt cause
massive flooding inland and cause millions of dollars in damage. My guess is that
the flooding of creeks, streams, and rivers in the Piedmont will be a real problem.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:47 AM
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8. Honestly, in a situation where it COULD be bad - but who knows
for sure, it's a hurricane for heaven's sake! - better to be over cautious then reporting the high number of casualties and apologizing for not realizing the potential dangers.

May be an inconvenience for some, but not as much as an inconvenience as for the relatives having to fly in for the funeral.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:55 AM
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14. this is what happened last time a mild hurricane hit N.C.


the hills channel all the water to the creeks and rivers and since the rivers on the
coast are high too you get flooding.


BTW I hope I am wrong and this does not happen.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:57 AM
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16. That's just it - you don't know WHAT will actually happen.
As they keep saying, prepare for the worst, hope for the best. It's the best advice, IMO!
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:05 AM
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22. IF that is related to Bonny and Floyd
they were back to back and on a different trajectory than Irene if I recall, back in 1999 or so. Franklin got flooded and then really got flooded when the second one rolled through.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:51 AM
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11. From rain perhaps in areas. We were supposed to get 12 inches
but that is cut to 5 to 6 inches in some areas, and perhaps localized rain totals will be a bit more in areas. We need it in the dismal swamp anyway. But wind speed affects storm surge if that is what you are talking about. Even as they proclaimed the storm of the century, the surge was predicted to be much less than Isabelle in 03 for instance. Now it is likely to be even less than predicted obviously. And, the trajectory of the storm is northeasterly. It is not pushing water inland like it would, say, if it were headed in a northwesterly direction. HYPE of the Century is what this has been, is, and will be. Epic, my ass.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:56 AM
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15. I am not talking about a storm surge but inland flooding
..... because of the rains.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:41 AM
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5. You've become the bearer of good news
Too bad there isn't more of it these days.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:52 AM
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12. That's cause I love cats!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:45 AM
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6. I'm sure those who suffer costly damage to their property will be
relieved about the cats and find your post a welcome bit of humor. :eyes:
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:57 AM
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17. Well I hope they have insurance if they do
I don't foresee any major catastrophic damage on a widespread scale. But, many like to feed hype in selling us tragedy and that is why we fall for shit like invading other countries. We believe the hype, need the hype and every time we fall for it, they know the next one that comes around we will again fall for it. Maybe the next catastrophe will be our need to bail out our peasant banker and wall street neighbors again.

The sad part though, is that if a real storm comes that destroys cities, people won't take it as seriously. This is like the third storm in the past few years that the NOAA was doling out reasonable information that the media embellished on to enormous EPIC proportions. Anyone who has been through many of these could reasonably tell from the path, the NOAA information and the reasonable meteorologists; it was a dud waiting to happen.


Btw, why do you hate cats? ;)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:03 AM
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20. I understand about the "crying wolf" danger, but it's impossible
to perfectly predict what will happen. I was in a situation where they predicted snow and everybody went crazy -- traffic tied up until after 10pm, kids getting stranded at day care, cars running out of gas because of the traffic jams, and it never snowed! (This was in NC and it had snowed a couple of days previously and there had been long delays in getting out/home, so they wanted to give fair warning this time.) I'm thinking if another forecast for heavy snow was given, people would still pay attention. People understand that weather does what weather wants, and doesn't obey our forecasts.

I love cats (and all animals) so much that if I had to evacuate and was told I couldn't bring my cat, I'd stay home and hope for the best for us both! So I honestly WAS happy to hear about the cats being rescued. :7
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:08 AM
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23. That was a Wavy.com alert that popped up on my phone
I smiled cause the cat was rescued and was safe. Who takes a sailboat out in any storm??? Good Grief!!!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:47 AM
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7. You meant to warn about the current tornado warning, right? nt
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:04 AM
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21. Those are really common in hurricanes
because they are doppler radar suggested ones. Rarely have I seen tornadoes in a hurricane on land in my experience. Most are false alarms, but by all means everyone needs to have some level of preparation and keep safety in mind. Do not take kittens or cats into a sailboat during a hurricane or tropical storm for that matter is the main thrust of my post, and it also belies the incredible reaching for news the media is searching for. I truly laughed my ass when they went to reporters in the outer banks standing in the wind and rain near the ocean and the wind speed indicator completely deflated them because it was a mere 47MPH. LMAO. Hucksters making a buck predicting tragedy and finding a garbage can that was rolling down the street. Can't make this stuff up.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:50 AM
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10. Lounge.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:54 AM
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13. Hype works though.
The stations probably have gotten their highest ratings of the year due to this storm.

The more they hype it the better their ratings, so there is no incentive for them to be accurate in their reporting.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:00 AM
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18. Yep, follow the buck I guess.
And it stimulated some of the economy in the region too.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:01 AM
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19. Are you watching Fox News? The news reports I'm reading are calm.
Here is an example of an AP report on a local station about the storm in North Carolina - it doesn't sound like hype to me. Maybe you are getting your news from tabloids and Faux News?

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/10053311/
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:12 AM
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24. You're kidding right???
I live here in Virginia near the coast. This has been nonstop hype from all the media for a week!!!!!! IT was the EPIC storm of the century on the Weather Channel. Of course it is dying down because the storm is a nonstarter. We had lines to my gas pumps and people lined up at Sams' club to get in. It was hysteria. It's hysteria north of here. The news here is all Irene all the time. My phone has gone crazy with reports of a cat getting rescued. Get real. Maybe you haven't been following for the last week. Epic, my ass. Storm of the century affecting 60 Billion people and their relative's relatives. It's been a hoot to say the least, the buildup was tremendous. And then "thud".
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:16 AM
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26. If you choose to tune into unprofessional news stations that is your choice
The fact that you choose to get in the middle of a bunch of hysterical tabloid reports is irrelevant to the facts. Now you're on DU saying that the storm is "giggle" - I saw your post in another thread.

My advice is to be a little more selective in what you watch. Stay off the weather channel and Fox News. Maybe that's all you have in coastal Virginia? Are you anywhere near Regent University?
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:30 PM
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29. Wvec wavy. Abc NBC CBS twc
24/7 fear mongering.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:45 AM
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27. So, is that what they mean about a "cat 1" storm?
:evilgrin:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:28 PM
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28. FYI
There already has been 2 deaths and flooding.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/08/hurri...

What a hoot!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:38 PM
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30. Yup, one died in a traffic accident fleeing because of the hysteria
and another one died of a heart attacked after being frightened by media reports.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:49 PM
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31. A young boy 11 yrs old died when a tree fell on his house....also
Sandbridge Va Beach had small tornado...damaged 5 houses seriously.....consistent rain and winds for hours on end is dangerous....mature trees in my neighborhood may not be able to handle sustained winds...

so...hype or not...this is a serious storm that still hasn't hit full impact yet.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:52 PM
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32. It's serioius, but overhyped
I agree with you. The hysteria caused at least two unnessary deaths.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:54 PM
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33. Three people dead so far
one possibly for NOT evacuating... as tree came down on apartment.

Yep, what a hoot!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:04 PM
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34. 6 dead so far, 1 million + w/out power, and major flooding
It keeps getting funnier all the time.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:06 PM
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35. seven dead actually
:hi:

I know it is damn funny!

:sarcasm:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 08:43 AM
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36. 11 dead, 4 million w/out power, and major flooding
It keeps getting funnier
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 08:51 AM
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37. Kick for this reply...nt
Sid
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:46 PM
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38. More pix and news as the result of Irene
Edited on Sun Aug-28-11 08:02 PM by Botany


wilmington vermont




NYC

@ least 21 dead

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/nation-world-news/h...

3 billion in damages & 4 million w/out power

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-28/irene-s-damage...

And as the O.P. said there was the loss of gutter nail too.
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