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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 10:58 PM
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US Physician Practices Versus Canadians: Spending Nearly Four Times As Much Money Interacting With P
US Physician Practices Versus Canadians: Spending Nearly Four Times As Much Money Interacting With Payers
http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/early/2011/08/03/hlthaff.2010.0893

Physician practices, especially the small practices with just one or two physicians that are common in the United States, incur substantial costs in time and labor interacting with multiple insurance plans about claims, coverage, and billing for patient care and prescription drugs. We surveyed physicians and administrators in the province of Ontario, Canada, about time spent interacting with payers and compared the results with a national companion survey in the United States. We estimated physician practices in Ontario spent $22,205 per physician per year interacting with Canada's single-payer agency--just 27 percent of the $82,975 per physician per year spent in the United States. US nursing staff, including medical assistants, spent 20.6 hours per physician per week interacting with health plans--nearly ten times that of their Ontario counterparts. If US physicians had administrative costs similar to those of Ontario physicians, the total savings would be approximately $27.6 billion per year. The results support the opinion shared by many US health care leaders interviewed for this study that interactions between physician practices and health plans could be performed much more efficiently.

The price of inefficiencies is not only the cost measured in this study. When these inefficiencies result in frequent interruptions in the work of physicians and their staff, they are likely to interfere with patient care.

Everyone--health plans, physicians and their staffs, and patients--will be better off if inefficiencies in transactions between physicians and health plans can be reduced.



Comment by Don McCanne of PHNP: The U.S. spends over $60,000 more per physician per year than does Canada on the in-practice administrative costs of interacting with payers - four times as much in the U.S. as in the Canadian single payer system. That does not include the administrative costs of the U.S. private health insurers which will be 15 to 20 percent of premiums paid to plans in the exchanges being established by the Affordable Care Act.

A Health Affairs press release today stated, "Although the United States is not currently moving as a country toward a single-payer system, researchers offer ways to reduce administrative costs, including standardizing transactions as much as possible and conducting them electronically rather than by mail, fax, and phone."

Unfortunately, the proposed use of standardized transactions conducted electronically hardly scratches the surface of this problem. Leaving in place a multitude of private and public plans with multiple benefit variations designed for the health care marketplace, with varying provider networks, and ever-changing patient eligibility can only perpetuate these administrative excesses.

What many in the policy community seem to forget is that it is not only the recovery of this administrative waste that would be of benefit, but we would all also benefit by the removal of the intrusive interference of the private insurers, the efficiencies of global budgeting and price negotiation, theassurance that everyone would be covered for life, benefits would be comprehensive, and financial barriers to care would be eliminated. Econometric models and the experience of other nations have demonstrated that we could have all of this without spending more than we already do.

Health Affairs and the sponsors of this study - The Commonwealth Fund and The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation - should not limit their recommendations to standardizing electronic transmissions. Instead of dismissing single payer with the passive observation that we are "not currently moving as a country toward a single-payer system," they should be in the forefront of calling for a truly serious, in-depth look at the single payer model.

Instead of meekly submitting to the fact that we are hostages of the conservative revolution, we should break out and storm our centers of democracy, that is, if we still have a democracy.

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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:18 PM
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1. 4 times the cost, 10 times the hours, what a country!
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johnd83 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:57 AM
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2. This is the real reason that healthcare is so expensive
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 05:48 AM
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3. Huge massive K&R
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Cairycat Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:33 AM
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4. K & R because
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 07:34 AM by Cairycat
not only does this add a huge amount to the cost of health care, the patient never knows if the drug or treatment prescribed is the one best suited to him/her or if it's what the insurance company wants.

edited for clarity
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:40 AM
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5. K&R! eom
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:35 AM
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6. Kick.
Why do Americans allow insurance companies to deny care?

Each day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.; that's 100,000 deaths per year. This is not only a moral issue, but a national security issue that we're so vulnerable given that our health care delivery system is so fragmented and dysfunctional, and also that we have a shortage of primary care physicians.

We need single-payer health care, not a welfare bailout for the serial-killer insurance agencies.

We don't need the GingrichCare of mandated, unregulated, for-profit insurance that is still too expensive, only pays parts of medical bills, denies claims, bankrupts and kills people.

Republinazi '93 plan:
"Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."


"We will never have real reform until people's health stops being treated as a financial opportunity for corporations."

"Employer-based health insurance has always been a bad idea. Your life should not depend on who you work for." -- T. McKeon

"Any proposal that sticks with our current dependence on for-profit private insurers ... will not be sustainable. And the new law will not get us to universal coverage ...." -- T.R. Reid, The Healing of America

"Despite the present hyperbole by its supporters, this latest effort will end up as just another failed reform effort littering the landscape of the last century." --John Geyman, M.D., Hijacked! The Road to Single Payer in the Aftermath of Stolen Health Care Reform

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 05:54 AM
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11. In order for assets
Edited on Wed Aug-10-11 05:55 AM by Turbineguy
to move up the pyramid, many must die. It's how living in a republican paradise works. Insurance companies exist to help the flow of money to the top.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:39 PM
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7. knr nt
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:37 PM
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8. But, but. That's all solved now that the insurance companies will run everything. Right?
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 09:37 PM by Jakes Progress
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:47 AM
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9. K&R.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:48 AM
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10. K&R...nt
Sid
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:14 PM
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12. Kick. n/t
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