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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:54 AM
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Loughner's mother is Jewish?
Tierney believes that Loughner was very interested in pushing people's buttons—and that may have been why he listed Hitler's Mein Kampf as one of his favorite books on his YouTube page. (Loughner's mom is Jewish, according to Tierney.) Loughner sometimes approached strangers and would say "weird" things, Tierney recalls. "He would do it because he thought people were below him and he knew they wouldn't know what he was talking about."

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message?page=1
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:59 AM
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1. Gosh, maybe he actually was a liberal -
:sarcasm:

Is that your implication?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:01 AM
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2. No. One of the accusations is he tried to kill Giffords because she is Jewish and he is
Anti-semitic.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:02 AM
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3. How would that change if his mother is allegedly Jewish?
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:03 AM
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4. So he couldn't possibly be anti-semitic because his mother's Jewish?
Is that your implication?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:05 AM
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5. Since he is Jewish or half Jewish depending on how you view it, the chances are less I would think.
That was always an assumption anyway.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:08 AM
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6. There are anti-Semitic Jews.
There are homophobic gays. There are (African-Americans who are) racist against African-Americans. Membership in a group doesn't absolve bigotry or bigoted feelings/actions/motives.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:13 AM
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8. But there aren't writings saying he was anti-Semitic. It was an assumption or guess that it was the
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 05:15 AM by dkf
Motivation.

People jumped to this conclusion based on the fact that Giffords was Jewish.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:15 AM
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10. It still could be a motivation.
Just because he didn't have some "manifesto" doesn't mean her being a Jew didn't also factor in to the equation. It is unknown. However, even without "proof" his attack was anti-Semitic, your post does not provide a reason for anti-Semitism not being a reason.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:34 AM
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13. He went to her townhall to ask her a question.
That tells me he was interested in what she had to say and did not reject her out of hand for being Jewish.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:38 AM
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14. How could you possibly know that?!
He went to a townhall three years ago. Your conclusion doesn't even make logical sense.

What is your interest in this "part" of the story? Are you trying to dismiss, outright, the possibility that anti-Semitism was a possible (additional) motive? Is there something else?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:11 AM
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7. It's incorrect.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:15 AM
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9. That would be because of his anti-Semitic attacks on a DUer's brother
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:17 AM
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11. that is a very interesting article. At this early stage it's looking
like Loughner's delusion about gov't controlling us with language/grammar, is seminal to why he targeted Giffords.

Thanks for posting this.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:25 AM
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12. Can't take credit for the link...It's posted below in LBN.
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:53 AM
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15. So What? Hitler Was Probably Jewish
Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust.
Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.
A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.


One's Jewish identity, by the way, is based through the maternal line, i.e. you are Jewish if your mother is Jewish.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:28 AM
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16. i`m beginning to think he`ll be the second coming of christ...
by the end of the week.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:07 AM
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17. Talk about self-hate with projection.
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