Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

CNN: Gov Fat Boy Christie In Hospital

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 01:58 PM
Original message
CNN: Gov Fat Boy Christie In Hospital
Taken there when he experienced shortness of breath. PR guy says it's asthma related. Wouldn't be the obesity, would it?

Oh, and he's happy with the "world-class care" he's getting at the hospital!!! Isn't that nice for him at a time he's cutting state services that will lead to people ending up dead?

BTW - just thought I'd apply Christie's way of talking about/regarding others to him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. I wonder if he could get private insurance with a pre-existing condition of asthma.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
2. No the obesitiy has nothing to do with Asthma
If you said diabetes, then there is a correlation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I didn't say they were related. I'm implying that his shortness of breath
could have everything to do with his obesity and nothing to do with his asthma.

In our PC world, you're not allowed to call people obese or treat it like a disease, while it's OK to talk about people having asthma. Ergo, his spokesman says it's asthma related, even though the doctors haven't given that as a diagnosis.

Christie is the very definition of the word obese. I don't know if he's treating his disease, but he should be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. he is morbidly obese
and I will not make any bones about it. He is, just the way it is.

As to our PC world, I think we are starting to treat it as a disease... at least in the medical community. Now our society actually sees obesity as a moral failing... which it is not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Obesity and asthma are linked: study
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #2
9. It can be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. Actually...
Study involving researchers from Kaiser Permanente, Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School:

Obesity Worsens Asthma; Sufferers more likely to be hospitalized, have lower quality of life, study finds

From the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology:

J Allergy Clin Immunol. 2008 May;121(5):1087-93; quiz 1094-5. Epub 2008 Apr 11.
Obesity and asthma: possible mechanisms.
Shore SA.
Source

Molecular and Integrative Physiological Sciences Program, Department of Environmental Health, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, MA 02115, USA. sshore@hsph.harvard.edu
Abstract

Epidemiologic data indicate that obesity increases the prevalence and incidence of asthma and reduces asthma control. Obese mice exhibit innate airway hyperresponsiveness and augmented responses to certain asthma triggers, further supporting a relationship between obesity and asthma. Here I discuss several mechanisms that may explain this relationship. In obesity, lung volume and tidal volume are reduced, events that promote airway narrowing. Obesity also leads to a state of low-grade systemic inflammation that may act on the lung to exacerbate asthma. Obesity-related changes in adipose-derived hormones, including leptin and adiponectin, may participate in these events. Comorbidities of obesity, such as dyslipidemia, gastroesophageal reflux, sleep-disordered breathing, type 2 diabetes, or hypertension may provoke or worsen asthma. Finally, obesity and asthma may share a common etiology, such as common genetics, common in utero conditions, or common predisposing dietary factors. Novel therapeutic strategies for treatment of the obese patient with asthma may result from an increased understanding of the mechanisms underlying this relationship.

PMID:
18405959

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18405959

and this:

To cite this article: Ma J, Xiao L, Knowles SB. Obesity, insulin resistance and the prevalence of atopy and asthma in US adults. Allergy 2010; 65: 14551463.
Abstract

Background:  The roles of obesity and insulin resistance in asthma and atopy are not well understood. We investigated whether there is an association of obesity and insulin resistance with asthma and atopy prevalence in US adults.

Methods:  Data from the 20052006 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey were analyzed by multivariate logistic regression, controlling for sex, age, ethnicity, income, and smoking status. Obesity was measured by body mass index (BMI) and waist circumference, and insulin resistance by the homeostasis model assessment. Asthma was defined by self-report of ever receiving a diagnosis and still having asthma currently, and atopy by any positive specific serum IgE responses to a panel of aeroallergens.

Results:  Neither obesity measure nor insulin resistance was associated with atopy. Obesity was positively associated with asthma overall (odds ratio for obese vs normal BMI = 2.28, 95% CI: 1.76, 2.96; OR for obese vs normal waist circumference = 1.75; 95% CI: 1.22, 2.51) but insulin resistance was not (OR = 1.26; 95% CI: 0.80, 1.98). Obesity was also associated with nonatopic asthma (OR for obese vs normal BMI = 2.5; 95% CI: 1.2, 5.2; OR for obese vs normal waist circumference = 2.07, 95% CI: 1.21, 3.54), while obese BMI was also associated with atopic asthma (OR = 2.04, 95% CI: 1.37, 3.03). Obesity remained independently associated with all asthma outcomes after controlling for insulin resistance.

Conclusion:  Obesity was independently associated with asthma, and atopic and nonatopic asthma, after controlling for insulin resistance and socio-demographic factors. There was no evidence that insulin resistance was associated with atopy or asthma.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1398-9995....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:01 PM
Response to Original message
3. hey, dont make fun of the useless eater
maybe now, he'll get out of the "running" (haha) for Veep Nom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
5. Personally I could give a shit
If the next "Breaking News" report was that he croaked...I still wouldn't give a shit...the man is an evil prick who deserves everything he gets...and I hope he gets everything he deserves.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:07 PM
Response to Original message
7. Last winter's Christmas blizzard
While Newark's Mayor Booker was out shoveling his city's streets, where was Christie? Frying his fat ass on a Florida beach. I was back in New York for the Holidays and I helped my kids shovel their driveway. I am 62 years old and a 100 lb. woman.

Hello, Mr. Christie. STOP eating Big Macs and get some EXERCISE. Maybe YOU should do a little shoveling yourself. No, darlings, I do not go to beaches here in Florida, anymore than I did in NY. Boring, boring, boring. I gotta MOVE and don't vegetate frying my brain in the sun.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:08 PM
Response to Original message
8. Unrec
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
11. or possibly
shortness of breath due to a heart problem? The docs will figure it out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
12. Applying political logic
(hate to sound all repuke on you) BUT this little episode could mean "bye, bye" for future political ambitions------easy now to go for the "but he could die in office over the stress because of his weight". Check off another repuke who will never be president...........
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. He Had No Chance
In this video age, he would never attract the voters given his appearance. That doesn't make it right, but i think that's a political reality.
GAC
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:03 PM
Response to Original message
15. To call gov. lard ass a "Fat Boy" is an insult to the illest old school hip hop crew ever....
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 03:05 PM by Erose999

The Fat Boys!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. As an old-school hip-hop fanatic, I loves me some Fat Boys.
I even liked "Disorderlies."

mikey_the_rat
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
16. Insensitive to people of size
Unrec.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
17. -1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:09 PM
Response to Original message
18. They could fix their budget if they could only render his fat into some sort of biofuel....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:25 PM
Response to Original message
19. so, let me get this straight-
you like the way Mr Christie speaks about and treats others so much that you can't help but copy it?

or,

Because "he" does it your doing it is acceptable?


:shrug:

I personally don't care for the man at all. Mostly because of the way he acts. I try very hard not to copy or adopt the behaviours of people I find it difficult to like. It isn't easy, because sometimes in the heat of the moment they feel so good. But I always regret it when I fail. No matter how I try to convince myself it's ok. It isn't.

I'll bet he can find justification for the way he acts too- but it's wrong imo. No matter who is doing it.

peace~
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
21. stay classy
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 03:47 PM by Beaverhausen
I alerted this thread. It will hopefully be gone soon.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:06 PM
Response to Original message
22. "Gov Fat Boy" isn't really necessary or appropriate.

While the Governor may be OK with crude insults in his arena, DU isn't in ours. We ask members to refrain from their use.

Thanks. Locking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 24th 2014, 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC