One Walmart refused Loughner ammo because of behavior
-- The 22-year-old suspect in the shooting tried to buy ammunition at a Walmart store and was turned down because of his behavior, according to a law enforcement source in Arizona. That same source said the suspect then successfully bought ammunition at another Walmart.
3. I think you can buy bullets and don't think this gun needed anything special
"Glock" is a brand of gun, like "Ford" is a brand of car. Seems ammo is more generic with different sizes, like there is different strengths of gasoline for your car. Poorly written, but I hope you get the gist.
5. No, Wal-Mart doesn't sell handguns or accessories for them
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:51 AM by krispos42
Just rifles and shotguns. But they do sell ammunition for handguns as well as rifles and shotguns.
His Glock shot this kind of ammunition:
He put them in this ammunition-holding device, called a "magazine" (or, incorrectly a "clip").
Pulling the trigger causes the cartridge to discharge. The bullet flies out the barrel and the recoil of the shooting causes the now-empty brass casing to be ejected and cast aside and the mechanical firing mechanism to reset.
17. When bolt-action rifles were standard military issue...
...they had built-in magazines that typically held 5 rounds. The military would take a thin piece of steel called a "stripper clip" and fit 5 rounds in them. When a soldier needed to reload an empty magazine, he would open the bolt, put the full clip in the rifle and push all 5 rounds into the magazine with one motion. Then the stripper clip was discarded and the bolt closed.
33. Very true. That was not a stripper clip though.
Just so other DUers know.
Not a bad idea... the critical stuff such as the follower, spring, and magazine lips, all stay nice and safe in the gun. Now if the Garand had had a 16-round magazine, that would have been truly awesome!
21. Hollywood generally does a bad job with guns, so people need knowledge...
...to make decisions. Not only that, but they need to unlearn stuff that looks cool in a cinema but doesn't meet the reality test. So, information, even if some call it "gun porn".
The shooter's gun would have looked very much like this:
You can see why people don't usually use or carry such large magazines... it's damn awkward to carry on your belt.
If those that are gun-ignorant want to weigh in on the issue of gun control in light of the assassination attempt, it is best for all if the basics are understood so their opinions can have more weight behind them.
20. Thanks for the very informative post and terminology.
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 09:25 AM by BlueMTexpat
I will never own a gun myself, believing quite rightly that it is more likely to be used against me than to "protect" me. I have no problem with those who are responsible and informed gun owners. I know and am related to quite a few who are. The problem I have is with those who are not, together with the unwarranted proliferation and accessibility that make it too easy for such people to get them.
1) The Glock 17 he used isn't automatic 2) Glock isn't special it is a brand name 3) Magazines are specific to the weapon. They are usually bought with the weapon 4) Ammo is standardized. There is no such thing as "Glock ammo". It is just 9mm ammo. It will work in all 9mm pistols.
37. Of course they are. There is a reason why their own party doesn't support them
McCarthy and Lautenberg bring the same tired bills out every single year and they die in comittee because their own party doesn't support them. They are just trying to wipe some blood on the bill this time (like they did for VT Tech shooting) and hope it sticks.
39. At best misleading the public to push an agenda.
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:44 PM by Statistical
All dealer transactions are regulated. The bil wouldn't regulate all person to person transactions it would just regulate them at gunshows. They intentionally use misleading languages to make gunshows seem like 3rd world arms markets and that it is a high level of criminal activity.
Nothing could be more from the truth. The DOJ own study shows it is completly false. 0.7% of criminals obtained firearms at gunshow (some legally). 99.3% of firearms used in criminal activity are obtained OUTSIDE gunshows. The largest source is the 200 million or so unregistered illegal street guns available in every city in America. Cash and carry.
The idea that the "gunshow loophole" bill would do anything is a joke. The same pathetic BS was used for the assault weapons ban despite those weapons being used in less than 1% of crime. Imagine that it did nothing to reduce crime. Why? Oh yeah because the weapons banned were used in <1% of crime. Once again this is from FBI, not exactly a gun loving organization.
So now we are going to pass a bill to target a venue in which criminal obtain less than 1% of weapons used in crime? Based on the failed AWB what would history tell you banning a venue in which <1% of guns used in crimes are obtained will accomplish?
A gun owner who is not an FFL is allowed to sell a firearm privately w/out a background check (in most states) regardless of the venue of the sale. A FFL is required to fill out the proper paperwork and conduct a NICS background check regardless of the venue of the sale.
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