"We cannot elevate nature above people. That's against the Bible and the Bill of Rights."

[seafan]

Now, Tea party members in Florida shout their opposition to manatee protection.



RON THOMPSON | Times (2006)


Tea party members tackle a new issue: manatees

By Craig Pittman, Times Staff Writer
July 13, 2011

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"We cannot elevate nature above people," explained Edna Mattos, 63, leader of the Citrus County Tea Party Patriots, in an interview. "That's against the Bible and the Bill of Rights." ..... Last week, Mattos, who says she has 800 members signed up on her group's website, and other tea party members picketed outside a public hearing on the new rules. Because they weren't allowed to bring their signs inside, she said, "my anger took over" and she sent a sharply worded e-mail to thousands of tea party members across Florida, urging them to write to Congress to block the Fish and Wildlife Service.

.....

"We believe that (federal regulators') aim is to control the fish and wildlife, in addition to the use of the land that surrounds this area, and the people that live here and visit. … As most of us know, this all ties in to the United Nations' Agenda 21 and Sustainability."

Agenda 21 is a program, adopted by the U.N. in 1992, to encourage countries around the world to promote only development that does not harm nature. Pundit Glenn Beck and other conservatives have attacked it as an attempt to impose world government's rules on every aspect of American lives. The Citrus County tea party group's website says Agenda 21 is "designed to make humans into livestock."

Mattos said she enjoys showing off the manatees to her grandchildren, but she had little use for the Save the Manatee Club, explaining, "If some of these environmental movements had been around in the days of the dinosaurs, we'd be living in Jurassic Park now."

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[WillParkinson]

1. The stupid...it burns soooo bad!

You'd think they'd tire of hearing themselves talk. Or perhaps they have and just don't bother to listen to themselves anymore.

[hobbit709]

16. Stupid really should be excruciatingly painful to the stupid.

Maybe then they would learn to modify their thinking.

[KatyMan]

25. Yeah, but this:

she had little use for the Save the Manatee Club, explaining, "If some of these environmental movements had been around in the days of the dinosaurs, we'd be living in Jurassic Park now."

is a whoooole new level of stupid! :)

[geardaddy]

40. But Jesus rode his trustee velociraptor to smite the heathen!

[geardaddy]

48. trustee?

Gah. trusty

[Viking12]

37. You want to see stupid? Check out the Citrus County Tea Party Patriot website.

oh vey...

http://citruscountycitizens.ning.com/

[HopeHoops]

2. Dinosaurs? WTF?

:rofl:

Just how fucking stupid can people be? Never mind. Don't answer that.

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. Sarah Palin is the voice of all American dinosaur deniers

Sarah Palin is the voice of all American dinosaur deniers” revealed one of her supporters. “What this country needs is someone who is prepared to set a clear path to Jesus, while completely ignoring irrefutable facts.”

[Erose999]

10. The X-ian dominionists believe people and dinosaurs lived at the same time...

I have an acquaintance who is of that opinion. I'm embarrassed on his behalf about it so I never bring it up in conversation. I'll let him keep that ignorance to himself, haha.

[mikeytherat]

17. Dinosaurs and hominids together?

mikey_the_rat

[yellowcanine]

21. Proof of human/dino coexistence for ye GAWDLESS COMMIES.

[mikeytherat]

22. I see Eve still has that damn apple, but what's up with Adam and the grapes?

Maybe they're going to make a Waldorf salad?

mikey_the_rat

[yellowcanine]

26. He is going to use that to hide his thang when the pterodactyl flies away.

Apparently the fig tree died so he needs to use the grapes.

[Buns_of_Fire]

35. Damned if I'd put my willie that close to a carnivore!

But then, I think all the animals in the Garden were our friends back then. I would have to assume that includes the dinosaurs. It wasn't until Eve killed her a b'ar (when she was only three) to use to cover the cold linoleum that the cute and cuddly little woodland creatures started getting a little testy with us. Something like that.

[Morning Dew]

36. That's not Adam.

It's Steve.... he's about to introduce the new girl to Adam.

[geardaddy]

41. Win!

:rofl:

[ElboRuum]

3. Someone better equipped logically needs to explain this.

How does protecting manatees translate into elevating nature above people?

I'm throwing out the "it's against the Bible part" for obvious reasons, but it's against the Bill of Rights? What? Where in the Bill of Rights is the Supremacy of Man over Nature (TM) guaranteed?

Nevermind. I've given up trying to see reason of any sort in these individuals. I'm also leaving alone the fact that DINOSAURS AND HOMO SAPIENS DID NOT INHABIT THE PLANET AT THE SAME EFFING TIME.

[annabanana]

4. People are CLEARLY not "natural". . stupid fucks. . .n/t

[ladjf]

5. This is rock bottom record dumb. It's difficult to imagine how an

adult human could be so ignorant about life.

[Odin2005]

6. The stupid, it BURNS!!!

[yellowcanine]

8. Well crap everyone knows that it says in Hezekiah 10:9 that "motorboats shall not be restricted

or the LORD GAWD will SMITE the offending guvmint agency."

[Tesha]

14. No, no, no -- it's in the book of Evinrude, verse 125 hp...

...where they discuss the Godly and un-Godly uses of
one's Johnson.

(Frankly, I think they've all had a little too much Mercury
exposure.)

Tesha

[mikeytherat]

20. Whatever floats you boat.

But don't get any true believers into the whole "inboard vs. outboard" debate.

mikey_the_rat

[Karenina]

27. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:spray: :rofl::rofl::rofl: Thanks, I needed that!

[rucky]

9. It's about time those godless, America-hating manatees get what they deserve!

[yellowcanine]

15. Darn right. And what they deserve are propeller stripes.

[hifiguy]

11. Un-freaking-believable

:wow: This beggars the imagination. I guess it is true that you just can't fix stupid.

[Erose999]

12. No thread on Manatees is complete without...

[geardaddy]

42. ...

:spray:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Ganja Ninja]

13. "we'd be living in Jurassic Park now"

:banghead:

I'm speechless. :wtf:

:banghead:

[yellowcanine]

18. Ignorance knows no bounds.

[LeftinOH]

19. Simple explanation: Environmental issues are generally a concern of progressive/liberal types..

therefore, Teapublicans must oppose them. They are predictably contrary.

[mopinko]

23. +1

[RadiationTherapy]

30. No. This is a naive view. Their religion is about the complete subduing and control of the female.

That means, women, nature, and chaos. They want a rigid, boxed-in life where they can control what comes in and what goes out of their box. Control vs. Chaos. Yang vs. Yin. The bible seeks to subdue all things related to the Yin Principle. That is where this is all rooted.

The Romans were similar in their need to dominate and control nature and the course of things.

[pipi_k]

24. Idiots. Without nature there ARE NO people...

Don't they get that?

They've obviously never heard of the food chain and they know nothing about ecology or the way it works.

oy...

:eyes:

[notsure]

28. Oh the hu-manatee!

Manatees are taking our freeeeedoms! I wish they would just stay out of our lives.

Its always a wonder to me how idiots manage to disassociate people from nature. We ARE nature; the human species depends on nature. I suppose that goes hand in hand with Mattos "reasoning" about the dinosaurs.

Of course, human destruction of the environment was all part of God's plan!

Leviticus 25:23-24 - The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Throughout the country that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land


Jeremiah 2:7 - I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and made my inheritance detestable.

[Sinistrous]

31. +1

+1000 for the subject line.

[Newest Reality]

29. The question is

What is the place of the "ascendant" species in its own hierarchy?

Are they avoiding the question of stewardship of the Earth? There is no question of that role in many indigenous cultures where the tribes see themselves in relationship to their environment rather than opposed to it or existing to merely exploit it. Being here to take care of the planet is not a new idea and it makes perfect sense when you consider the observable effects we see of avoiding the ramifications of polluting without concern for the extreme and long-term impact on flora and fauna.

Putting Humanity above nature does not automatically equal a license to foul and destroy it. In fact, it begs the question as to how our species fits into the scheme of life itself since we find ourselves here and very much dependent on the ecosystem. That is, especially when we see the modern, false paradigm of profit/capitalism/corporatism exploit Judao-Christian dogma in order to justify its massively destructive and disruptive agenda.

All religious speculation aside, what does a truly intelligent species do when it comes to its own, long-term survival and continuation in large numbers?

[Blue_Tires]

32. "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

---Bertrand Russell

[hifiguy]

33. That sums it up in a nutshell. nt

[The2ndWheel]

34. In which aspect of life do we not try to elevate people above nature?

I know it's fun to pick on crazy tea party members, but we can't elevate nature above people. That's not what civilization is about.

[TwilightGardener]

38. "We can't elevate nature above people"--people ARE a part of nature.

We're just mammals with the ability to fuck things up for the rest of our fellow creatures.

[The2ndWheel]

49. Of course we are

But we don't want to be. That's the point. Just like the big corporations that write the rules which govern them, that's what we try to do in relation to the environment that we exist in. We don't like the limits that nature has for us. We don't like regulations. We want to privatize the profits of the planet for the benefit of a single species while socializing the costs to the rest of life.

[Iggo]

52. People ARE nature.

:hi:

[RandomKoolzip]

53. You make it sound like a binary, either-or proposition.

Both can be honored and protected...and as others have noted, human ARE part of nature, not outside of it, not opposed to it.

[felix_numinous]

39. Hmmmm Bible.... but Bill of RIghts?????

Bill of Rights
Amendment 1 Freedoms, Petitions, Assembly
Amendment 2 Right to bear arms
Amendment 3 Quartering of soldiers
Amendment 4 Search and arrest
Amendment 5 Rights in criminal cases
Amendment 6 Right to a fair trial
Amendment 7 Rights in civil cases
Amendment 8 Bail, fines, punishment
Amendment 9 Rights retained by the People
Amendment 10 States' rights
Later Amendments
Amendment 11 Lawsuits against states
Amendment 12 Presidential elections
Amendment 13 Abolition of slavery
Amendment 14 Civil rights
Amendment 15 Black suffrage
Amendment 16 Income taxes
Amendment 17 Senatorial elections
Amendment 18 Prohibition of liquor
Amendment 19 Women's suffrage
Amendment 20 Terms of office
Amendment 21 Repeal of Prohibition
Amendment 22 Term Limits for the Presidency
Amendment 23 Washington, D.C., suffrage
Amendment 24 Abolition of poll taxes
Amendment 25 Presidential succession
Amendment 26 18-year-old suffrage
Amendment 27 Congressional pay raises


Must be this little known amendment:

Amendment 28 Gods man-date to dominate women, gays, plants and animals and fish

[fascisthunter]

43. Now I Understand what Religious people mean when they use the word EVIL

anything good, these people hate! It's funny how environmentalists and people who care about their environments are the ones who are true conservatives. These neo-fascists are just sick misanthropes.

[spanone]

44. save the manatees you stupid assholes.

[geardaddy]

45. This thread needs this....

NARWHALS ARE FUCKING AWESOME



WE GOT HORNS AND SHIT YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHH



FUCKIN STAB YOU DAMN NARWHAL DAMN



GOT A HORN LIKE A FUCKING UNICORN MAN EXCEPT I A WHALE DAMN

[CJvR]

46. I think it is fairly obvious...

...that we do live in Jurassic park, there are plenty of people around with pea sized brains!

[applegrove]

47. I guess we should deregulate anti-biotics too!!!

[area51]

50. Although

they don't mind elevating corporations above citizens. :eyes:

[Iggo]

51. Edna Mattos is a fucking moron. (n/t)