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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:22 PM
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Casey Anthony to be retried?
From Tangerineflorida.com

Casey Anthony to be retried?

There are pages on Facebook advocating this, too.

OJ Simpson was tried a second time for civil rights violations. So were the cops that beat up Rodney King.

So it's possible, though I doubt it will happen.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:25 PM
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1. Can't be retried. OJ wasn't retried either.
OJ was, & CA could be, tried on civil charges, or on new criminal charges. That is not a retrial.

Yeah, yeah, pedantry, I know.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:26 PM
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2. Well there could be a civil trial but
if she is found guilty in a civil trial all that could happen is she would have to pay someone.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:29 PM
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8. who is going to sue her? her parents?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:37 PM
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23. The woman she accused of taking her daughter.
Casey is scheduled to be deposed in that case July 19.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:38 PM
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33. I'd heard that, and that she wouldn't be allowed to plead the 5th.
. Interesting.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:05 AM
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34. oh good. i didn't know that. i was thinking the only lawsuit would have to be wrongful death
and the only ones who could bring that would be her parents who are most likely not going to do that. thank you for that. at least that is something.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:28 PM
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35. Here...
She actually filed it in 2008, but the criminal trial
took precedence:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17579545/detail.html

...and here's the most recent stuff:

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/274778/Casey-Anthony-subpoenaed-in-Zenaida-Gonzalez-case
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:29 PM
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9. Who is gonna sue her?
Nobody, that's who.

I'd even expect the silly Zenaida Gonzalez gold-digging suit to get thrown out.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:26 PM
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3. She cannot be criminally tried again.
She can be sued in a civil court.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:26 PM
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4. I thought it was illegal to try someone twice
on criminal charges.

My personal opinion is that she probably did it, but it was up to the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. They failed to do so.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:46 PM
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26. People can be tried on *NEW* charges.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:47 PM by Tesha
It's not unheard of that someone "gets off" from
state charges and a Federal case is then brought
against them. It often plays out this way for
hate crimes and the like where a racist state
clearly isn't doing their job but a Federal
prosecutor is willing to step in.

In this case?

Unlikely.

What's the Federal's interest, after all?

Tesha
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:27 PM
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5. Who cares?
What about trying the Goldman Sachs Board a first time?

NGU.

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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:32 PM
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12. Right on! The damage Goldman Sachs did will eventually kill
more people than Anthony ever could. If they haven't already. Somewhere someone's saving was wiped out in the crash, didn't go to the doctor because they couldn't afford it. That's all it would take.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:36 PM
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20. Well you're the one who posted in a thread that
you claim you don't care about. :shrug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:37 PM
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21. Yes, about something that I DO care about. And calling out a DUer is against the rules.
NGU.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:40 PM
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25. No shit, Sherlock. They should be the ones in front of a judge and jury
with the trial televised and splashed over every news show on the air to the exclusion of nearly everything else.

This was a media circus. Time to move on. There will be another one, anything but reporting real news, you know.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:28 PM
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6. OJ Simpson was never retried for "civil rights violations"
He was sued in civil court for wrongful death.

It's useful, when you make claims, to have at least a slight idea what you're talking about.
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:31 PM
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11. I think user was thinking of
the Rodney King cops, perhaps.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 PM
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15. Oh he said that, and it's true
But please go back and read the OP.
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:35 PM
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19. yeah, saw that
just think s/he had a brain fart is all.

not that anyone cares. *shrugs*
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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:50 PM
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27. You're right. I was wrong. I apologize.
But "wrongful death" could also apply here.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:29 PM
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7. oj was sued by his in-laws in civil court . . . and lost. the
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:32 PM by ellenfl
punishment was monetary. i believe there is a different burden of proof in civil court. iow, apples and oranges.

{edit - wow, you guys are fast! no one had responded when i started my post!}

ellen fl
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:30 PM
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10. well if Facebook's advocating it, Bill of Rights be damned
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:32 PM
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13. Her mother Cindy could go to trial for perjury. The chloroform search lie..n/t
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:32 PM
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36. I saw on TV that Cindy will not be prosecuted for perjury.
Not sure which channel, but I think it was HLN.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 PM
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14. fifth amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 PM
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16. Double jeopardy ... she can't be retried when she was found not guilty. nt
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 PM
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17. I believe there was talk of
recouping expenses of, at least, the cost of the search for her child for the 31 days that she knew that she was dead, in fact, not missing. The proceeds of any TV or book deals could be attached by a judgment. But double jeopardy prevents her being tried again for Caylee's murder. Hell, just as OJ could, she could take out a full page ad or shout it from the rooftops that she did deliberately kill her child and there could be no legal repercussions.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:34 PM
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18. This is wishful thinking from people who are upset that she was acquitted...
...and because they KNOW SHE'S GUILTY, gosh darnit, they want to try her again, Bill of Rights be damned.

It isn't going to happen, because it is ridiculously illegal and would be a miscarriage of justice.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:37 PM
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22. i agree...nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:38 PM
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24. They can't retry her criminally.
It's double jeopardy. Someone could bring a civil suit, I suppose.
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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:06 PM
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28. 5th amendment applies unless
You kidnap someone in Virginia and murdered him/her in North Carolina, you can be tried with kidnapping and/or murder in both Virginia (where the crime began),and in North Carolina (where the crime ended).

Also, because you crossed state lines, the Federal court also has jurisdiction over the crime and you can be tired federally as well.

See "Dual Sovereignty" on wikipedia

dual sovereignty

This doesn't apply to Casey Anthony, but it's something to be aware of.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:18 PM
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29. She cannot be retried. I was flipping through TV channels and
saw where is being treated as if in witness protection.
She will go someplace far away and live. All because
obsessed Americans cannot let go.

Why cant people let this go???
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:19 PM
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30. Mob rule. A court of law isn't enough for the dregs. They want her blood...
facts and a jury of her peers be damned.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:22 PM
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31. She can't be re-tried for murder. nt
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Philippine expat Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:45 PM
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32. OJ was NOT retried
there was a civil suit brought by the Brown family
Who would bring the suit, plus whats the purpose, she could not be sentenced to jail
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:33 PM
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37. what part of 'not guilty' don't you understand?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:39 PM
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38. Retried for what?
That would be called Double Jeopardy. Pages on facebook of people who have no idea of law. Casey cannot be retried criminally for the same charges.

Oj was not retried, he was tried criminally and civil case.
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