Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Incandescent Light Bulb Insanity and the Groucho Marx Republicans

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:27 PM
Original message
Incandescent Light Bulb Insanity and the Groucho Marx Republicans
http://swampland.time.com/2011/07/12/incandescent-light... /

By Michael Grunwald Tuesday, July 12, 2011

The William Wallaces of the Republican Party are defending our freedom again, this time our freedom to buy inefficient light bulbs. The GOP-controlled House is about to pass a bill to repeal the lighting efficiency standards that Congress passed and President Bush signed in 2007, standards that the lighting industry actually supported. The federal government sets energy-efficiency standards for all kinds of products, but Republicans have decided that these are particularly tyrannical, because they ban all incandescent bulbs. Thomas Edison invented incandescent bulbs! Whats next: banning rotary-dial telephones?

Except that Congress didnt ban incandescent bulbs. It simply required them to use less energy, and manufacturers are responding with a new generation of more efficient incandescents. Say what you want about that biker dude who got killed when he fell off his bike at a rally protesting mandatory helmet laws, but at least those laws were really mandatory. Did Republicans even bother to read the bills before deciding it was evidence of an evil socialist nanny-state conspiracy?

Why, yes. In fact, a Republican wrote the bill.

The lighting standards were the brainchild of GOP Congressman Fred Upton of Michigan, who explained them thusly in a press release at the time: snip

You wont find that press release on Uptons website, because hes now chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and hes now helping to repeal his own legislation. But Daniel Weiss of the Center for American Progress found it. As Weiss points out, Upton publicly defended the light-bulb standards as recently as 2009, but after the midterms, he changed his tune after Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck tried to mount a campaign to deny him the gavel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
1. Any idiocy that fits their silly views, or seems to oppose Dems.
And so much the better if it hurts the U.S., and even better, the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:44 PM
Response to Original message
2. science denial enters the bulb world
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:54 PM
Response to Original message
3. Now all the Glen Beck's of the world can spend their extra time changing burnt
out old fashioned light bulbs and turning the AC up and down depending on how bright the damn room is.

The best thing I love about the new light bulbs is how long they last. I think some people have forgotten just how many light bulbs they actually have in their house. They will find out soon enough if they go on this old fashioned incandescent kick and spend their recreational time changing damn light bulbs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:02 PM
Response to Original message
4. Here's a thought.
How can we convince the right that oil and gas are GOOD for the environment? As soon as we can do that, we'll be headed for a greener tomorrow. "Recent findings...smog is GOOD for you!!!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
5. Thomas Edison was a Founding Father

so clearly this regulation is unpatriotic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
6. Damn, there goes my retirement plan. I have over 400 4-packs of the incandecents
just waiting for the prices to rise after the ban goes in! This sucks!

I do have the bulbs, I like them better. Should have enough for about 200 years or so. Got them with coupons for negative 50 cents a pack if you are wondering.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:39 PM
Response to Original message
7. Funny, but there a some DUer's that are pissed that the government passed this law.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lighthouse10 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:23 PM
Response to Original message
8. Why Light Bulb Regulations are wrong
Light bulb and other energy efficiency regulations are wrong in that they change product characteristics, unnecessarily reduce choice and don't deal with the problem
http://ceolas.net/#cc21x


Only c 2% of grid electricity is saved from regulations
(DOE data as referenced http://ceolas.net/#li171x )

Light bulbs don't burn coal and they don't release CO2 gas
There are many better ways to reduce energy use in generation (coal 30-35% efficient)
grid upgrades, and alternative consumption measures as explained on the website

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Jul 23rd 2014, 10:37 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC