"tell that to Pat Tillman's family" - Rizzoli and Isles last night

[Aerows]

They were discussing fragging, and we all know Angie Harmon is right-wing.

I found that to be a breathtaking admission, but then again, I like the show.

The cast of the show was discussing heroes in Afghanistan, and we know Pat Tillman occurred in Afghanistan.

I give points for even bringing it up again.

[Ptah]

1. .

[Aerows]

5. Would you like to discuss the points made

and you are free to hate on me because it was Afghanistan instead of Iraq, and it is horrible to bring up an issue that has gotten too little attention.

You will never shoot me down for bringing it up.

[dionysus]

11. he corrected a minor mistake in your post, he didn't call you hitler or anything.

;)

[Aerows]

12. Agreed

Mea Culpa.

[Maccagirl]

7. His family are heroes for not going along with the narrative

and Pat is a hero for just being himself.

[Aerows]

16. No arguments

but I thought it was fascinating that the show dared to say so.

[Aerows]

2. I'm not absolving

Angie Harmon, but the show kicks ass for daring to address it.

[Hangingon]

3. Tillman died in Afganistan.

[Aerows]

6. I messed up

by stating Iraq.

[MADem]

4. Pat Tillman was killed by FF in AFGHANISTAN.

It was a "coverup is worse than the crime" situation. No one was trying to kill him, it was a mistake, but since he was a heroic figure, the brass didn't want to admit that he died in such an ignominious, fog-of-war fashion.

He wasn't "front towards enemy" fragged, though, as was common in Vietnam, where enlisted subordinates pointed mines towards their often clueless commissioned leadership to take them out if they gave orders that involved hazard to their lives and little/no potential for mission progress.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4815441/ns/world_news/t/ex-nfl-star-tillman-makes-ultimate-sacrifice/

Edited to add this link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/03/AR2005050301502.html

The first one is the "fictionalized account," the second details the results of the investigation.

[Aerows]

8. Yes, he was

and I messed up by stating Iraq.

It's just as disgraceful to fuck up on the name as it is to misuse the person. My apologies.

[MADem]

9. No biggie. We're all human--except for the adbots, anyway! nt

[ceile]

10. I noticed that too.

Nice line.

[Aerows]

14. Thanks

sorry I messed it up and indicated Iraq rather than Afghanistan.

I sincerely apologize for not only not getting the location correct, I was using it to make a point with the wrong location. I just pointed it out because the show did, and I was impressed by that.

Apologies for botching it up. I really meant it as a celebration.

::hangs head::

[ceile]

20. No worries.

You had edited before I replied....so I have no idea what you're referring to. ;-)

[DURHAM D]

13. That surprised me also.

Is Angie changing her politics? naaaah

[Aerows]

15. I can't stand her politics

But between her and Sasha Alexander, I can't stop watching.

[monmouth]

19. Is her brother Mark (Jethro Gibbs) a repub also? That would break my heart.LOL...n/t

[EC]

17. I watch because I like Sasha

she was great on NCIS...maybe Angie saw the error of her ways, or maybe she doesn't like the new repubs...she seems like the old type and those I guess I can live with.

[Aerows]

18. I'm willing to let it all go

If it's Angie Harmon vs Sasha Alexander.

I'd pretty much let it all go for Sasha Alexander *grin*

[Aerows]

21. I love Sasha

She's pretty amazing in the second season.