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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:34 AM
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Calls to try Bush administration officials for war crimes
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3267846.htm
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Human Rights Watch has released a report arguing that US authorities are legally obliged to investigate the Bush administration's most senior officials for war crimes.

It's singled out former president George W. Bush, his vice-president Dick Cheney, the former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and the ex-CIA director George Tenet.

Reed Brody is counsel for Human Rights Watch. He's been nicknamed The Dictator Hunter, and was lead counsel for victims in the prosecution of Augusto Pinochet.

He wrote the report, and says that if the Obama administration won't put George Bush on trial, foreign governments should.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:13 AM
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1. i hope they do.
heaven knows it is not happening here. :(
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:19 AM
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2. This is receiving lots of coverage on BBC International this morning
calling for an Independent Commission.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14119065
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The former president, vice-president, defence secretary and head of the CIA should all be investigated, the group says.

"There are solid grounds to investigate Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Tenet for authorising torture and war crimes," said Kenneth Roth, Human Rights Watch's executive director.

"President Obama has treated torture as an unfortunate policy choice rather than a crime.

"His decision to end abusive interrogation practices will remain easily reversible unless the legal prohibition against torture is clearly re-established."

In its 107-page report, HRW claims there is substantial information warranting criminal investigations of Mr Bush and his senior officials for ordering practises such as waterboarding, the use of secret CIA prisons and the transfer of detainees to countries where they were tortured.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:22 AM
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3. I wonder if something has moved.
Because HRW is sensitive to the climate in DC. :shrug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:29 AM
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4. I doubt it
I think they completed their report. Maybe the best thing for the planet is the fall of Murdoch - hopefully journalism can be cleaned up and the power elite will be forced to follow the law.
I'm not particularly hopeful because too many people will destroy countries for power and wealth.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:09 AM
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13. Murdoch was manipulating people in the UK
I'm sure he was doing it here, too. Maybe they fact that he's in deep shit trouble now is giving people a little more confidence.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:39 AM
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5. I'm glad for the calls for justice
Gee, we were all interested in justice when Seal Team Six gunned down an unarmed man back in April, but we seem curiously incurious about the very same crimes he was accused of when it might be our own people who committed them. There's a word for that, but it's early in the morning and I just can't think of it.

Think, think.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:46 AM
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6. Ken Roth kicked Bush apologist @ss this morning on Amy's show.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:47 AM by EFerrari
I have no great love for HRW because their Latin America guy has politicized his mission. But Roth did great today. I wouldn't cross him. lol

Link will be up in about an hour.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:52 AM
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7. I'd love to hear that
Thanks
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:29 PM
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18. Here's the link to the segment:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:52 AM
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8. k&r... i'll be there's no statute of limitations on war crimes
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:53 AM by spanone
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:26 AM
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11. Try and watch Professor Nowak on BBC
An amazing interview - the US has no choice but to investigate.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:13 AM
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15. thanks!!!
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mysubs2012 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:19 AM
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9. Bush = Human Rights ????
How can the Pastor of George W Bush even let him come into
God's House when he has the blood of innocent men women and
children on his hands ?  Money maybe  Maybe St Peter will
give him some change
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:24 AM
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10. Add Gonzales and Yoo to the list. n/t
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:07 AM
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12. YAWN. Nothing will happen.
Nor will any foreign government of any significance do anything either.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:13 AM
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14. You wish
I wish different.

K&R
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:41 AM
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17. Not wish, I predict.
You may wish different, but wishing won't make it happen.
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:16 AM
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16. ya, but it's fun to pretend.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:39 PM
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19. k & r! nt
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:37 PM
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20. kick
nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:59 PM
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21. ...fall on deaf ears in a White House committed to "Looking forward"
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:43 PM
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22. I think Obama made a deal with the devil to get into the WH. Part of the deal was hands off the war
criminals.
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