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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:15 PM
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2007: THE time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves.
You can't say we weren't warned.

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THE time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves.

In taking the first steps toward a presidential candidacy last week, Mr. Obama, who was born in 1961 and considers himself a member of the post-boomer generation, said Americans hungered for a different kind of politics, one that moved beyond the tired ideological battles of the 1960s.

To make his point, Mr. Obama, a Democrat from Illinois in his first term in the Senate, announced the formation of his presidential exploratory committee in a video streamed on his Web site. He is tieless and relaxed and oh so cool.

Mr. Obama calculates that Americans of all ages are sick of the feuding boomers and ready to turn to the generation that came of age after Vietnam, after the campus culture wars between freaks and straights, and after young people had given up on what berboomer Hillary Rodham Clinton (who made her own announcement on the Web yesterday) called in a 1969 commencement address a search for a more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/weekinreview/21broder...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:20 PM
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:21 PM
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2. I have posted this 3 times today already. Needs to be posted 3 more times.
I pulled a hard copy of this out of my political file yesterday while talking on the phone with a friend who was coming unglued. I started reading it to him as I reminded him that he and I had discussed it back in January of 2007. He apologized for "not getting it" back then.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:22 PM
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3. Disdain for his own age group, disdain for those stale 1960's programs.
:(
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:26 PM
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7. And all those movements - my god the Movements...
civil rights, women's rights, choice, peace, gays.

My God those people need to get over themselves.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:17 AM
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75. Did you read "Audacity of Hope?" Here is what it says on Civil Rights. Where is the "disdain?"
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 10:19 AM by yellowcanine
No black or white America--just United States of America

A line in my speech at the 04 Democratic National Convention struck a chord. "There is not a black American and white American and Latino America and Asian American--there is the United States of America." For them, it seems to capture a vision of America finally freed from the past of Jim Crow and slavery, Japanese internment camps and Mexican braceros, workplace tensions and cultural conflict--an America that fulfills Dr. King's promise that we be judged not by the color of our skin but by the content of our character.

I have no choice but to believe this vision. As the child of a black man and white woman, born in the melting pot of Hawaii, with a sister who is half-Indonesian, but who is usually mistaken for Mexican, and a brother-in-law and niece of Chinese descent, with some relatives who resemble Margaret Thatcher and others who could pass for Bernie Mac, I never had the option of restricting my loyalties on the basis of race or measuring my worth on the basis of tribe.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:13 AM
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69. President Obama doesn't give a shit about seniors.
There is plenty of evidence documenting this going back to his campaign site where he had a special section for just about every sub group of voters EXCEPT FOR seniors, who vote in droves. He then added a seniors and Social Security section, which is pretty patronizing, lumping a group of people into one issue. He thinks he can win without them. He did before and he thinks he can again. He has no interest in seniors. Period.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:24 PM
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4. From his own mouth.
:shrug:
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:45 AM
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52. He needed the youth vote
And there's no better way to get that than to bash boomers.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:24 PM
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5. I thought he wanted to be president of 'all the people'?
That's a pretty big segment of the population, and they have kids and grandkids who I'm sure are not 'sick of them', to dismiss.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:35 PM
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17. To think that you have to ignore all the gay baiting he engaged
in directly and via his hate preacher chorus of surrogates. He told us he wanted to be President of the crazy religious people. Then he went to SF and slagged off the people of PA for being bigoted and religious! It was the same month, he hired hate preachers of the worst kind to be his surrogates, then he criticized others for 'clinging to God and fear of those unlike themselves'. The towering hypocrisy of it should have been noticed but no one was looking or listening.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:46 PM
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46. Still back in the primaries, Hmm???
telling, very telling....
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:06 AM
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73. Oh, that's right!
We're only allowed to look forward. Who cares what happened in the past? It's not prologue or anything, is it?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:15 PM
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76. Yes the primaries were telling.
And now we're all paying for some of us not listening then.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #46
77. if only we were having a primary
(didn't get my vote then )
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:50 PM
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48. I think people did notice, but by then, after eight years of Bush
the prospect of a McCain win and more of the same, wars, torture etc, was enough to cause people to put on blinders. And when McCain picked Palin, that was probably the best thing that happened to Obama.

But I do recall the outrage over several things he did that were forewarnings of what we are now seeing. We just didn't have much choice. I know I was uneasy about him when he spoke so much about his religion eg. It seemed almost phony to me, like someone told him he needed to steal some thunder from Republicans. And on the Gays-are-sinners pastor, that was unforgiveable and incomprehensible if you thought of him as a real Democrat. But in retrospect, it is not so incomprehesible anymore.

Then there was his total flip-flop on the Fisa bill. But Hillary wasn't much different and in the end for me, it came down to him not supporting Mandated Ins, which he slammed Hillary for, and a few other minor differences.

Now, well, I don't know what to think. We do get a few crumbs when a Dem is in the WH because I suppose they have to keep the 'two party' idea alive. I think the focus has to be on Congress now. No matter who is in the WH, if we had a strong Progressive Congress, it would not matter.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:25 PM
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6. There were many, many signs.
Nobody wanted to think about such things, though. It was much more fun to get caught up in the moment.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:29 PM
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10. We were told we wouldn't be able to do better
I seem to remember lots of "Shut up, sit down and vote!" too.

It all seems so surreal now...the Bush era was already rabbit hole material, but to think of all that's happened since 2006...crazy!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:35 PM
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18. "Why do you hate hope?"
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 08:41 PM by QC
Yes, someone actually said that. Right here. And others thought it was the most clever piece of wit since the passing of Oscar Wilde.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:47 PM
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28. That in itself is white rabbit material
Are delusions all we have?
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:11 PM
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38. like relaxing legislation protecting Illinois aquifers from radioactive waste
after getting donations from Exelon
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:45 PM
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45. Yes, that one is a classic, isn't it?
And let's not forget "clean coal."

And appointing Monsatan's favorite sycophant to be ag secretary.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:24 PM
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78. I knew but wanted to be wrong. The minute he hired Rahm as his COS, I knew we were fucked.
Nothing has surprised me since.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:36 PM
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84. Rahm's appointment, that was the moment for me, too.
I knew which direction we were headed and I knew it was going to be bad. :(
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:27 PM
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8. He was right then, and he's still right.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:30 PM
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12. No, he was wrong then and he's still wrong.
All of those battles are ongoing and Obama is AWOL. Backing off of those battles is precisely what allowed this fascist right wing to get where is it today.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:19 PM
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32. +1000
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:48 PM
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47. Bwaha ahahahahaha hha ha hahah ahaha
Fucking perfect.

Just perfect.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:29 PM
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79. you are right
other poster , not so much...
I found him to the right of Hillary on nukes, that cost him points in my book his Interior appointment lost more points.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:28 PM
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9. / unrec
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:29 PM
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11. He sounds like a Republican..
.. bitching about "class warfare". Guess what Obama? It's not about dueling ideologies it is about right and wrong, fair and unfair.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:31 PM
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13. All the government needs to do is to PAY BACK all the "extra" FICA money
we have been paying in since Reagan...and then we'll all be fine & dandy :)
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:32 PM
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14. He holds the GLBT rights movement in contempt along with
the women's movement. He's a huge right winger. A McClurkin fan.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:34 PM
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15. Anyone that call tell a suffering nation to "eat their peas"
as he sets about cutting into its social programs has problems that are unexamined.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:37 PM
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19. Envision Whriled Peas!
nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:39 PM
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22. .
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:24 PM
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33. All we are saaaaying, is give peas a chance!
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 09:24 PM by WorseBeforeBetter


(Oops, wrong spot. Oh, well!)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:46 PM
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36. Deleted message
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:09 PM
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37. The "eat your peas" one liner was delivered as both a message for leaders and for citizens ...
for leaders in the sense of the need to do hard work, but also implied for citizens who were being exhorted to endure their "share" of the sacrifice entailed in negotiated cuts to social programs.

The significant pause between the previous metaphor and the "eat your peas" metaphor had the effect of decoupling it from the context of the rest of the statements at least enough for "eat your peas" to be interpretable by a listener as applying, like the metaphor before, to leaders or equally applying to the "other side of the equation"... "the led" (the citizens who would be enduring the effect of the tough policies mapped out by the leaders).

To say that "eat your peas" was, unquestionably, directed towards political leaders is to pretend that the pause never happened and that the metaphor didn't "follow on the heels" of another metaphor which did obviously refer to the leaders... and it is to argue that the resulting redundancy is bereft of any meaning in and of itself. (You can make the argument, but the ear of a plurality of listeners would seem to prove you not only wrong but wrong-headed in making the argument.)
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:11 PM
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39. Wow, we're reading into pauses now? Seriously?
Fun.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:35 PM
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43. Yes, we're reading pauses. Give a speech and change the pauses, it changes tone...
change the tone, and you change the meaning.

There is more to communication than "just" the words. That's why the written form of a language is invariably different in style than the spoken.

That's why there is bold ... and italics ... to communicate things that are communicated by tone of voice in speech but which need some indicator in the text. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE WORDS HAVEN'T CHANGEDBUT THE MEANING SURE AS HELL HAS CHANGED.


See... what I mean.

If this is too subtle of a point for you, still... I might be able to come up with some YouTube vids to make it PAINFULLY obvious what I'm talking about.

;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:53 AM
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55. You are claiming something he did not say.
But of course, you know that.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:56 AM
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56. What am I claiming
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:34 PM
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16. THAT was only a two minute song!!!
:cry:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:38 PM
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20. And one short prayer!
That was all!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:38 PM
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21. That's a pantload of bitter nonsense, alright.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 08:42 PM by ClarkUSA
Bizarro World, indeed.

:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:40 PM
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23. Don't blame Bluebear. He said it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:43 PM
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24. And four years ago, a NYT reporter spun Obama's words into yet another OUTRAGE meme.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 08:46 PM by ClarkUSA
FYI, I wasn't speaking to Bluebear, although I find the OP to be quite desperate.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:06 AM
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61. Yes, only a right winger would repeal DADT.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 01:08 AM by Starbucks Anarchist
And demand visitation rights for GLBT partners at any hospital that accepts Medicare and/or Medicaid -- virtually all hospitals.

And pass the Ryan White Act.

And pass the Matthew Shepherd Act,

And expanded partnership benefits to federal employees.

And do many other positive pro-LGBT things. Yep, any right winger would do exactly that. :eyes:

Also, the Lilly Ledbetter Act was clearly a slap in the face to women who faced pay discrimination throughout their lives. :eyes:
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:12 AM
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74. Well....
1. repeal DADT

It's not repealed, until the certification is completed. The certification is probably months away. Not counting the chicken until it has hatched.

2. And pass the Ryan White Act.

Congress did it

3. And pass the Matthew Shepherd Act

Congress did it

4. And expanded partnership benefits to federal employee

What federal employees, what "benefits"?

5. And do many other positive pro-LGBT thing

Teh Gays just LOVE window dressing!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #74
80. enough crumbs for a Dutch Apple PIE
and that's without the Easter egg roll!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:13 PM
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83. Yes, it's on its way to certification.
That's how the process works. Maybe you're not aware of that.

2. And pass the Ryan White Act.

Congress did it

3. And pass the Matthew Shepherd Act

Congress did it


Who do you think signs bills into law? Again, maybe you're not aware of this.

4. And expanded partnership benefits to federal employee

What federal employees, what "benefits"?


A quick Google search will provide you with the answers. I'm not in the habit of making things up. If you don't want to do the research on an important issue, that's your problem, not mine.

5. And do many other positive pro-LGBT thing

Teh Gays just LOVE window dressing!


If you consider these historic accomplishments (no other president has passed as much pro-GLBT legislation as Obama) as "window dressing," then I feel sorry for you.

These are issues that the GLBT community has endorsed or called for, and Obama has delivered. I understand that Obama's position on gay marriage is wrong, but that doesn't deny his otherwise impressive record here.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:44 PM
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25. 1961 is not Generation X. 1961 is still the Baby Boom.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:44 PM
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26. Nothing to "get over," it was never about "ourselves."
IT WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE ABOUT: Peace and Social Justice for all.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:45 PM
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27. Mr. President you ARE a Boomer
since it goes up to 1964. A younger boomer by 3 years, but still a boomer. You are NOT Gen X or Gen Y. You are too OLD to be one. Hillary just makes it on the UPPER end of it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:52 PM
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29. That's a mischaracterization. Why are you dredging up false memes four years later?
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 08:53 PM by ClarkUSA
Still refighting the primaries? :eyes:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:57 PM
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30. Not at all. You can't disappear his direct quote. n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:17 PM
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31. The OP headline is not a quote from Obama at all. It's a misleading mischaracterization.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 09:32 PM by ClarkUSA
Again, I wasn't speaking to you. Why do you keep speaking for Bluebear?

Are you his keyboard's spokeswoman?

:rofl:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:20 PM
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41. One thing about it
I don't think you are going to be able to "persuade" folks like you did last time. :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:02 AM
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59. As usual, you're refuting a claim no one made.
LOL
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:38 PM
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34. So he is taking the side of the people who opposed equal rights?
Not to mention that he is essentially dissing the anti war crowd, the "get the government off my back" crowd, the elderly who for the first time in American history have a dignified retirement, and the organic movement to name a few.
What pissed him off so much?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:44 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:15 PM
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40. He must
really hate them; otherwise why would he enact policies to save seniors money and offer for first time ever free preventive care under Medicare?

It's bizarre!!!



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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:21 PM
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42. Ok so now Boomers are the fuck up's? What happened to the Teachers?
Make up your mind Washington. Everybody's an asshole unless you're worshiping the God of money, spouting a confederate flag on the 4th of July, swating at fleas, or working for free for corporations that are now "persons"??

What a town of total wimps and that includes anyone in the Executive branch.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:22 AM
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50. +
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:31 AM
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65. One Party, the corporate party
I've just been looking at some propaganda posters from China. I could make a good one for the US from the images you list.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:37 AM
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71. do it
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:43 PM
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44. What the hell is Obama, isn't he a Baby Boomer, too?
Fuck.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:56 PM
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49. Yes he is, that's why the article makes no sense...
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:46 AM
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53. He was born in '61. So I guess some might consider him at the end of boomer
generation. Some would not.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:27 AM
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51. Recommended
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:48 AM
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54. He's talking about the old politicians in Congress & going to run for Prez. About the old
arguments they all have with each other, etc., etc. That's fine. It's what every new generation does...distinguish itself from the previous generation, and say that we, the younger, are better.

I don't see this as a big deal. It doesn't mean he wants to throw grandma off the cliff, if that's what you're implying. That's not what the article is about.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:57 AM
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57. You don't see anything as a big deal. Later.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:05 AM
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60. I see many things as a big deal. Important things. Keep your eye on the ball.
This silly stuff is distracting and not helpful to finding solutions.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:13 AM
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62. Feh.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:58 AM
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58. It's common knowledge that the boomer group went through 1964 nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:54 AM
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63. lol
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:17 AM
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64. LOL, oldie but goodie.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:39 AM
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66. K&R
:kick:
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:49 AM
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67. "Tired ideological battles" my aging, raging ass.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:58 AM by GliderGuider
Since when was wanting the make the world a more humane, egalitarian, integrated, peaceful, cooperative, altruistic and mindful place to live an ideological position? And what does it say about those who oppose such changes that they would characterize them that way?

The world has been sold a bill of goods by this man and his corporate backers.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:01 AM
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68. That pose of floating serenely above the petty concerns of mere mortals
is really irritating, isn't it?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:53 PM
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82. well said +++++++
n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:15 AM
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70. ooooh, recycled outrage from 4 years ago even. gotta keep that outrage stoked!
:rofl:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:55 AM
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72. Well Obama didn't actually say that, it was a NYT reporter's take on it.
And one of his main lines of "evidence" was that Obama was using video streaming technology on his website to announce his run for President. Of course everyone knows boomers don't use video streaming technology! :sarcasm: Others lines of evidence were criticism by Obama of 60's politics, the Clinton/Gingrich wars of the 1990's, and the politics of the 2000/2004 elections. Out of this thin web the reporter weaves a narrative of Obama rejecting the boomer generation. It was lame then and is even lamer now.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:40 PM
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81. Now he's driving the bus he threw them under.
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