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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:02 AM
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Texas woman loses Iraq rape case against KBR
Source: AP

Texas woman 'shocked' after losing KBR lawsuit

By MICHAEL GRACZYK - Associated Press,PAUL J. WEBER - Associated Press | AP – Fri, Jul 8, 2011

HOUSTON (AP) — A former KBR Inc. employee who said she was drugged and raped while working in Iraq lost her civil lawsuit against the military contractor Friday after a federal jury concluded that the sex was consensual. The jury of eight men and three women rejected Jamie Leigh Jones' claims a day after starting deliberations in a Houston federal courthouse. Jones, 26, said she was raped in 2005 while working for KBR at Camp Hope, Baghdad.

Jones sued KBR, its former parent Halliburton Co., and a former KBR firefighter, Charles Bortz, whom she identified as one of her rapists. The Houston-based companies and Bortz denied her allegations.

The alleged sexual assault was investigated by authorities but no criminal charges were filed. "I was going up against a monster," Jones, sobbing loudly, told The Associated Press. "I'm devastated. I believe I did the right thing coming forward."

KBR said it was deeply satisfied by the verdict.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/texas-woman-loses-iraq-rape-case-against-kbr-210931043.html



More video information on this sad case of a violent rape by KBR employees:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jamie-leigh-jones-claims-iraq-rape-employer-held/story?id=13884264
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:04 AM
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1. Ugh...
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:06 AM
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2. Okay, let's say the rape charges were false. Why would that make
the charges of false imprisonment moot?
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:12 AM
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3. Good point. Its too bad the jury didnt see the video. She was torn up by these monsters..
If this had happened here several KBR "firefighters" would have been in prison for a brutal attack and rape!
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:34 AM
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6. I can't post the link
Because I am typing on my phone, but I just got done reading a mother jones article about this trial which casts a lot of doubt on her claims, FYI.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:58 AM
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8. What about the claim about being imprisoned in the shipping container?
Was doubt cast on that claim, too?
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:01 AM
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9. Yeah
Apparently, she had a night of rough,
Drunken sex that she doesn't remember. She may well have been raped, but according to mother jones almost everything
else that she has said is a lie.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:14 AM
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10. Rough, drunken sex and it's consensual?
That's hard to imagine.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:29 AM
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11. She was raped by a gang of heathens who would be in jail here in the US. nt
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:33 AM
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13. Really? I didnt see anything like that on mother jones. Its RAPE plain and simple. nt
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:00 AM
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17. From Mother Jones Magazine
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 03:01 AM by rpannier
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/kbr-could-win-jamie-leigh-jones-rape-trial?page=1

edited because I linked to page 2 instead of the beginning of the artiole

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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:57 AM
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21. How was it concluded that she was "too drunk to remember"? And if she was too drunk to remember,...
how is that consensual?
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:10 AM
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30. A doctor at Baylor (yes, the no-booze, no dance Baylor in Waco)
calculated that 5 drinks in 3 hours could have rendered her unconscious at 120 pounds.

So no, he actually never examined HER, nor had any personal knowledge of the crime or the victim.

As a recovering alcoholic myself (since May 24, 1975), I can assure you that folks that weigh 120 or less can drink considerably more than that in that time period without passing out. And yes, my evidence is anecdotal observation, but his isn't even that - it's just a black box calculation that gave a large and well connected corporation results that they wanted.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:37 AM
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16. Or so you say. I just read MJ and I didnt see anything like that there.
But then whatever it takes to cast doubt on the victim, right?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 04:09 AM
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22. Well, it does help to actually look.
"Roofies: Jones claims that she was dosed with the date rape drug Rohypnol, which she believed was slipped into her drink by one of the KBR firefighters she was partying with in the Green Zone. In one of her congressional appearances, Jones said a contractor handed her a mixed drink and that "I took two sips from the drink, and don't remember anything after that." She testified before Congress in 2009 that "hen I awoke in my room the next morning, I was naked, I was sore, I was bruised, and I was bleeding. I was groggy and confused and didn't know why."

The Evidence: After reporting the alleged attack to a KBR co-worker, who drove Jones to the Army hospital at Camp Hope, she was examined by Dr. Jodi Schultz. Schultz took urine and blood samples, which tested negative for Rohypnol or any other date-rape drug. Jones' legal team has challenged the lab work, arguing that it was never done properly, and also hired an expert to testify that just because the lab tests didn't turn up the drugs doesn't mean they weren't there. But KBR has offered an alternate explanation for her memory loss: Jones was drunk."

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/kbr-could-win-jamie-leigh-jones-rape-trial?page=2

There's enough to support what rpannier said.

She may well have been raped, but there are enough false reports of rape that the real victims tend to be taken less seriously.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 05:29 AM
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25. In the movie Hot Coffee it said parts of her rape kit were missing and
she needed reconstructive surgery, for crying out loud! Kinda hard to fake that.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:14 AM
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4. Because KBR claims she AGREED to it
If you agree to get drugged into oblivion, tied up, and fucked for days by a gang of strangers, you don't have the right to complain about false imprisonment. You agreed, right?

Rape is a tool of war. If she doesn't know which end to hang on to, she shouldn't be in the military.

:sarcasm:
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:26 AM
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5. Rape when she was in the Green Zone and committed by co-workers?
Since when was that a part of "war", since she was a civilian, not military?
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:26 AM
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19. In keeping with the sober, well-thought-out tone of my previous post
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 03:29 AM by saras
She's in the fuckin' MIDDLE EAST, for chrissakes! Okay, either she's at war or stupid.

She's an American, right? AMERICA IS AT WAR! Hey, wait a minute. If we're at war here, anything goes, boys!

:sarcasm:

good enough?

It's not even a "normal" rape, it's a horror movie script. And our courts say that it's just peachy keen. I think my last sane neuron has given up the ghost. I swear, another year of this and it will be MANDATORY to act out the lyrics to Cannibal Corpse songs on order of a police or military officer.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 06:00 AM
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28. exactly.
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 06:01 AM by annm4peace
Just yesterday i was at a Vets for Peace event and on of the speakers was a soldier who was gang raped by her own squad.

over 30% female soldiers are raped by other troops. There is hardly any discipline action. There are men soldiers rapes also but we were discussing females. Often it isn't in combat areas.


If the military won't punish the perpetrators and often ends up punishing in some way the survivor.. then what could we expect from a defense contractor.

If she was so called making this up, why did KBR spend millions covering it up and trying to stop it from ever going to trial?
It what she was saying wasn't true then they would have had it trial right away.

It is shameful and injustice. We will never know how many rapes are committed by contractors.

I have no doubt she is the survivor and KBR paid people off. I'm sure it is an example to anyone who reports a rape especially a brutal rape against war contractors that they will be victimized again in court.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:48 AM
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7. I wonder how much per juror it cost KBR. nt
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:35 AM
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15. Dont forget the defense and the judge. Chicken feed to KBR.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 05:50 AM
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27. I agree
and I can't believe they had the trial in HOUSTON. It didn't have a chance.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:13 AM
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31. Yes, a venue change to Pecos would have been desirable.
West Texas juries have been more plaintiff friendly than the Gulf Coast, North Texas, or the Hill Country, for some reason.

But yes, HOUSTON, ground zero for KBR?
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:30 AM
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12. the court system
in Texas is hopeless unless you are a large corporation.
This is just sickening.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:34 AM
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14. Thankfully my only time in TX was a stopover at DFW. Never set foot on the ground. nt
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 05:13 AM
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24. That what I was thinking, Texas. Sorry, it just popped into my head. nt
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:08 AM
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18. That's "Good Ol' Boy" Justice, TX-style
Hear ye, hear ye: "Justice for SALE." Lucky she wasn't countersued. What a world, what a world.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 05:36 AM
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26. edit
strike comment; just saw it was jury decision.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:47 AM
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20. So they say she was a slut
and asking to be raped and then imprisoned in a shipping container. There were no authorities because KBR Halibruton are totally above the law per Congress.

Just remember, they hate us for our freedom.
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blackbart99 Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 04:33 AM
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23. Well I'm glad she had the courage to go all the way
with the lawsuit. Piss poor outcome, but she had to try. The only good coming out of this
will be fewer women will put themselves in the situation to start with. Girls...the money is good
but the cost is too high. Don't go to work for KBR...we know what the R stands for now...don't we?
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 06:17 AM
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29. There's a reason they tell all females to never go anywhere alone over there, always have a buddy
wherever you go. At first it made me sick when I heard this, they need to educate/punish/control the male servicemembers and solve it that way. Since my husband's return tho, I've wondered if they don't add testosterone to the vaccinations they're given when they go to the middle east.

KBR and Blackwater get away with breaking all other rules when they're in the middle east, why would this case be any different? They get up to some crazy stuff over there.
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