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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:19 AM
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"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 12:27 AM by 20score
who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." The Peter Principle (1969)

The quote, which is sometimes misattributed to Mark Twain, is witty; and what can be inferred from it is true. Some of the people in charge are imbeciles, true believers in their cause, and some are smart people who knowingly lie for greed, ideology or whatever reasons they call their own. Not that all leaders are bad, of course. That should go without saying, but Ill say it anyway. There are many who are truly great and unselfish people who should be lauded for their work. (Bernie Sanders comes to mind.) But for the others, whether they get important things wrong because they dont understand, or whether they get things wrong because they dont care, they and their supporters should be challenged at every turn.

For at least thirty years the Republicans have been moving the debates further and further to the right. And each time the Democrats move to the right- and then meet them half way. The result is that now in the twenty-first century, the entire debate takes place in what was not too long ago, considered lunatic-land. Where reality, democracy and facts hold no sway. Consider the two sides of the budget debate now being brokered. One is terrible, the other is disgusting. How much to take from the needy and the poor? Thats whats being discussed. And with one side asking if we could not give quite so much to the richest corporations. All this is taking place as if they didnt know that many of our most profitable and largest corporations paid nothing in taxes last year. Nothing. Exxon, GE, Bank of America, all paid less than a receptionist in any of those companies paid by his or herself. Making corporations and the extremely rich pay their fair share of taxes not on the table. Ending the Bush tax cuts, which according to a new CBO report would solve the deficit problem in five years - not on the table. The one budget proposal that would actually solve most of the countrys fiscal problems is not being discussed and most people dont even know of its existence. Its smart, creates a budget surplus by 2021 and filled with very popular ideas. Like ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its call the Peoples Budget and was introduced in April by 83 members of Congress, and then completely ignored by the corporate media. Whenever popular and common sense ideas are brought out that could actually solve problems, but yet hurt the profits of a powerful corporation, however slightly, the people bringing out those ideas are either ignored or talked about in a snide tone of voice that dismisses them as unworthy of consideration. Too bad.

The debate about climate change along with debate on whether or not to teach intelligent design as science are two obvious examples of the imbecile/smart leader divide. There is no real debate about climate change. Over one hundred and fifty years ago John Tyndall discovered that carbon dioxide was a greenhouse gas. No one disputes that. No one disputes that we spew billions of tons of this greenhouse gas that has been sequestered for millennia into the atmosphere. Years before, scientists predicted certain changes in climate due to our putting carbon into the atmosphere; we are seeing those changes now. Yet the media allows a false debate to take place by people who are lying, or who have no clue concerning the science they are there to speak about. The top executives in the news outlets must know there is no debate. And the newspapers, magazines and television programs that allow this should be inundated by people tired of having their intelligence insulted.

The same goes for the false equivalence in the religion as a science debate. Recently there was a film clip of Miss America contestants answering the question, Should evolution be taught in schools? With far too many answering either, No or As long as they teach the other side. There is no other side. Not with science. Science is not the equal of religion. Just like fact is not the equal of opinion. The other side of creationism or intelligent design is other creation myths. Not science. Creationism and ID are by definition religions and by the same definition cannot be science. Partly because of a lazy, cowed or bought off media this false equivalence has been allowed to grow without serious challenge for years, with a result of millions of people not knowing the deference between science and religion.

Unfortunately, this has terrible consequences, not only for the future of our countrys doctors, scientists, etc, but also for the ability of millions to think critically. More vocal challenging of the media and our leaders when they outright lie or make a mockery of logic may not solve everything right away, but it does go to the root of so many of our problems.


Next week, the TSA and spying.
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punkin87 Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:51 AM
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1. Something that might help! Thanks 20score!
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:46 AM
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7. Thanks Punkin87!
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punkin87 Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:06 PM
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15. ;)
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:05 AM
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2. nothing "smart" about the way the world is run at the present time; just pure

greed/capitalism.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:20 AM
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6. I'm going with "greedy master manipulators ruling the willfully stupid to their own ruin"
!!!
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:06 AM
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3. k&r! n/t
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:40 AM
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4. K & R
Excellent!!! Sending this out to my email list.

It seems that we're devolving. Imbeciles are running the show.


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:16 AM
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5. Thanks Duppers!
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suede1 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:01 PM
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8. Right on. Posting on FB!
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:55 PM
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9. Cool, thanks!
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suede1 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:00 PM
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10. Kick!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:50 PM
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11. My brother used to tell me
everybody wakes up one day and discovers that the world is being run by the same bozos who sat next to you in math.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:28 PM
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14. Like that.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:11 PM
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12. It takes a genius to orchestrate an economic collapse
There is no reason anyone should believe that the people who implemented all the policies that caused the last 4 years of economic failure didn't know that it was the inevitable outcome of their actions.

They only want you to think they are dumb. Otherwise, the masses would destroy them for what they have done to us.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:15 PM
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13. Amen on the false equivalence WRT science/religion. n/t
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:39 PM
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17. Thanks!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:11 PM
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16. Deep Throat Warned Us...
Bob Woodward: The story is dry. All we've got are pieces. We can't seem to figure out what the puzzle is supposed to look like. John Mitchell resigns as the head of CREEP, and says that he wants to spend more time with his family. I mean, it sounds like bullshit, we don't exactly believe that...

Deep Throat: No, heh, but it's touching. Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.


Link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074119/quotes

:shrug:
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:17 PM
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18. Maddow reported on the People's Budget,
and then I never heard another word. All they talked about was Ryan.

Two Miss America contestants, including the winner, thought evolution should be taught in school. When I saw some of the other contestants answer, I thought it was a parody by The Onion. Nobody could be that freaking stupid...oh, wait. I got the impression a lot of them had no idea what evolution was.

K&R!

:hi:
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