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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:44 AM
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This is why Dems lose "Democrats Shy From Weiner as G.O.P. Seizes on Scandal" the
republicans have Vitter who loves his hookers & refused to resign, still serving & what about the republican senator who likes to try & pick up guys in airport bathrooms. Both of these guys were so called family value hypocrites. Not condoning Anthony's little online episode at all but before everyone gets all holier than thou, all of the republicans need to resign first & the dems should be firing back about them before crucifying one of their own.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:50 AM
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1. Yep, this is one of the problems I have with Democrats
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 04:51 AM by Skip_In_Boulder
these days. They will throw their own under the bus at just a whiff of impropriety. That's not how you win the war.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:57 AM
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2. Republicans also have Chris Lee who resigned after it was revealed
he sent a shirtless pic of himself to some woman. They have Foley who resigned after texting ex-pages with requests for their pics. It has Ensign who resigned after the details of his affair and paying off of the couple were revealed.

Funny you forgot those examples.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:38 AM
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7. funny you left out some pretty relevent details
Foley first met the pages when they were underage, groomed them, and then asked for pics when they turned legal age. Ensign broke several laws against lobbying and tried to force constituents to use his former employees lobbying service. Lee put an ad on Craig's list.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:49 AM
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9. How is putting an ad on Craigslist worse than posting.....
a pic of your crotch on Twitter? Just curious.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:45 AM
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14. He was actively soliticing sex
not for pay admittedly but he was definately committing adultery.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:17 PM
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20. No, what is so funny, no details just didn't bother to mention all of them and also
those guys are gone. I am talking about those republicans still serving who refused to resign.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:47 AM
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8. Although I agree with your point...
Ensign is a bad example...He was busted nearly two years ago maybe longer & only resigned to try and avoid further ethics probes.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:54 AM
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10. Not true
Lee jumped before the rest of the story became public
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:58 AM
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11. Of course it's true. Both repubs and dems have been done in by scandal
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:20 PM
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22. Yes, both have, the difference is in how the repubs & dems handle the scandals.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:25 PM
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24. Nothing funny about it. Funny how you left Vitter and the Utah Senator out and who are still
serving which is my point about this. If the republicans want to take on Weiner they can explain the others in their crowd who are still serving after prostitutes and trying to pick up guys in airport restrooms (also arrested and charged).
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sweetloukillbot Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:36 PM
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27. Larry Craig retired in 2008 - he's not still serving
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:35 PM
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28. No, but he refused to resign and he served out his term then did not seek reelection.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:10 AM
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3. Exactly.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:11 AM
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4. It's not because Dems step away from a stupid politician that they lose, it
is because the minute an election is successful they turn around and start kneecapping each other. There are no skills in this party for maintaining a coalition once it is formed.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:34 AM
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5. Vitter is still in because he is from Louisiana,
No other state would have re-elected him. Weiner is a lying pervert. And apparently stupid, too.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:19 PM
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21. Agreed; Vitter is still in because of LA. They will accept anything there with an "R" before their
name. Weiner is highly intelligent & one of our best who was not afraid to go after what was needed going after unlike so many of our dems. What he did was a very stupid juvenile act & that is something I still don't understand why. Flaw in the personality I guess.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:32 AM
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36. Louisiana...
Likes slimy politicians no matter what party they belong to..... OLITICS" target="_blank">http://articles.cnn.com/2009-08-05/politics/us.rep.tria...

Vitter and Jefferson are just a speck of the horrid blob that is politicians in LA.
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titaniumsalute Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:37 AM
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6. Oh and Ensign, Gov. Sanford, and on and on...
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:13 PM
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31. Gov Sanford is the one that gets me.
The fuckwit DESERTED HIS STATE AND THE COUNTRY for petes sake, lied about it, didn't make any contingency plans, and that is way, way worse than anything AW did.

And a much more compelling story, considering it involves obsessive love. How very Edward and Bella.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:24 AM
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12. Everything you say about Vitter and Craig is true
But I'd like to believe we hold our congresscritters to higher standards than Repukes do theirs.

The "we're no worse than they are" line is going to leave us looking like fools every time.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:34 AM
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13. Yup, that standard is serving people over corporations and actually doing something for the bottom
80%. TeaPubliKlans have no such ideas.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:20 PM
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19. word up
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:18 AM
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15. How can one defend acts that were so immature, silly, naive
and a bit perverted?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:19 AM
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16. No, Democrats lose because they no longer
represent the voice of We The People.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:08 AM
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17. Democrats shy away from everything.
Pantywaist ninnies. This is indeed a chronic problem with them.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:21 PM
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23. Right-on.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:15 AM
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18. Riiiiing! Clue phone: The media is not on our side
Sooner more of us figure this out the better off we will all be.

Don
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:35 PM
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35. then we become slaves to a media
in fear of being maligned publicly... then we cease to even exist as an opposition to the right wing.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:26 PM
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25. Bloomberg stood up for him - played on NPR
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:30 PM
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26. They hope that if they appease the slavering idiots that they'll be left alone.
They're wrong.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:26 PM
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33. that is something that really gets me about dems
over and over, they hope if they appease, the pubs will play nice. They, and their sock puppets never, never do.

My dem gov, over and over, placated and gave in to pub demands on legislation, declaring she is governing the "whole state". The pubs still attacked her, and anonymously funded groups to go after her. She barely won re-election, as her governing the whole state didn't get her any votes in the end. Appeasement never works, ever.

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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:46 PM
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29. Shying away from a battle is quite common around here too.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:12 PM
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30. Democrats always "cut and run", it's their MO
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 07:14 PM by Raine
whether they should or shouldn't in this case I don't know but it's what they do. Democrats claim they want to "live to fight another day" but that day never seems to come. What is the point of "living" to fight when you never do. :shrug:

edit: typo
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:22 PM
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32. Please take note! Weiner being progressive is as much of a threat to the neolibs as to
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 07:23 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
the repukes. They both want him gone.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:32 PM
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34. Exactly....
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 07:32 PM by fascisthunter
we should be talking about Supreme Court Judge Thomas instead
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