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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:28 PM
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When you say you can no longer trust Rep. Wiener, what do you mean by that?
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 04:36 PM by Hassin Bin Sober
Do you no longer believe no tax cuts for the rich? medicare for all? reaganomics is a failure? republicans want to dismantle medicare and social security? NPR should be funded?

What is it that you have to "trust" in the Congressman from a single NY district?

Please explain that to me - because the only thing I, being a resident of Illinois, need out of Wiener is his votes, his votes with our caucus and the way he gives the rethugs hell every other day.


Please verbalize what trust is required of a Congressman from one NY district?


edit: spelling
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:31 PM
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1. Touche with a tiddle over the e
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:31 PM
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2. good question
if any Anthony Weiner supporter is disillusioned by this revelation, then imo they were not thinking straight.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:36 PM
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3. the fact that you are asking this question means that you
believe it has affected the estimation of many of his followers.

The part that really hurts is the fool he made out of those that stuck up for him.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:36 PM
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4. I don't say that, because I never did trust him
As a career politician, he was always automatically on my suspect list.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:37 PM
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5. You have made the best point yet....thanks
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:39 PM
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6. No kidding. I'm not getting that at all. I'm guessing JFK did a lot
of lying in his personal life too.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:40 PM
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7. Many Democrats support ending the tax cuts for the rich, protecting Medicare, etc.
But most of them (I hope) have better judgment than to send out stupid pictures of themselves and then (ineptly) lie about it for ten days. It's the immaturity level that is disturbing.

I've been asking myself: why didn't I feel this way about Clinton? What was different? Perhaps I have the answer: I can understand people's need for private sexual behavior outside of their committed relationships, even if I don't subscribe to cheating myself.* I can even see visiting prostitutes.

But I see taking pictures of oneself and sending them to young girls on Twitter as being really really indicative of immature, stunted behavior. It has nothing to do with cheating or affairs or anything. It's frankly the behavior of a fifteen-year-old. And that is disturbing. Handling the media so poorly and for so long is equally disturbing. That is why I would lose faith in this particular case: it's a question of judgment. I wouldn't trust his judgment.


* I make an exception in the case of someone who is running for president, risking the party's chances, and cheating on their wife while she is dying of cancer.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:25 PM
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11. Well said, frazzled. I agree completely.
Maybe because I'm not a guy, I do not understand the compulsion to send pictures of your junk (in underwear or worse, not in underwear) to some young woman.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:42 PM
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8. I don't trust any politician anymore
not for anything.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:44 PM
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9. It means...
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 04:44 PM by Commie Pinko Dirtbag
"Boy oh boy oh BOY I hope I take as many votes off Democrats as possible. Victory in 2012 baby! Woo hoo! :woohoo: "
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:50 PM
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10. He's my congressman, but I wouldn't trust him anyway
I don't trust him anymore.

What on God's green earth does that have to do with his positions? Of course I support the positions you've referenced.

And in a cold, emotionless calculation, his vote is his vote.

Do I trust him, though?

No. He *lied*. It wasn't just a simple, quick, spur of the moment lie. It was an elaborate lie. He created justifications for why he was "privately investigating this" that were outright lies. No investigation took place.

He's now an untrustworthy person in my book.

But he didn't just hurt himself or my estimation of him.

By being a staking horse, he accepted the mantle of a "voice of sanity." And now that "voice of sanity" is linked to creepy untrustworthiness. The valid positions he championed are now compromised because they are attached to a man of low moral constancy. Sending the photos when you are married is bad enough, but if we knew little of all that stuff, that would be my preference. But he's an evasive liar, now.

And as others have pointed out, he's emboldened Breitbart , who is a disgusting, generally truth-twisting, prevaricating asshole. And now he gets to be right. So people can forget about the last five times when it's been shown that Breitbart and his foul minions completely twisted the bogus story they were selling. This is yet another way that Weiner has hurt so much more than himself.

So no, I do not trust him, and I sure don't trust him as a leader we can count on.
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