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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:29 PM
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Anyone think Pot (non-medical) will be legalized in any state in the next five years?
I hear a lot of talk about it but most polls are not very close when real elections are held.

I think it should be legalized. I have never used pot once but think it being illegal is stupid.

I just do not see the USA legalizing it anywhere.

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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:29 PM
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1. No...not after it failed in California.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:31 PM
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2. Colorado is gathering signatures
It will be on ballot next year
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:36 PM
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6. Colorado will be the first.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:56 PM
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11. Wow, did not know that. n-t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:32 PM
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3. We will get in done in the nest 10 years
Here in Oregon, or Cali, Co, or Wa. But we will get it done

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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:33 PM
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4. Legal no.
Decriminalized most likely. Legal to have and use in your home. but, it won't be for sale at the store.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:33 PM
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5. The dam is bust, it's going to happen. nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:40 PM
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7. Not 5. Ten.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:49 PM
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8. Yes, first Colorado, then the rest of the West
The Feds will just reclassify, then the States do as they wish unhindered. I assume you are from the South or Midwest? NY?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:52 PM
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9. Maybe. Stoned people vote stupider. nt
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 09:50 PM
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18. My observations have always been that cannabis consumption
Edited on Fri Jun-03-11 09:52 PM by Occulus
raises the sensitivity of the consumer's bullshit detector.

I have never been able to 'pull a fast one' on someone high on cannabis. They always seem to see directly through any BS I throw at them, repeatedly.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:47 PM
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22. Does that explain Republicans?
:shrug:

--imm
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Jumping John Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:53 PM
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10. NO corporate Pharma will stop it since that is why Obama is busting medicinal marijuana and
The pharma drug cartel has finally produced a non-high marijuana pill.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:47 PM
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12. It has to be legalized at the federal level first.
As long as it is against federal law it will not matter what states do. No business or person would be able to sell it because when they sign their income tax forms they would be admitting to a federal felony.
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sunwyn Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:57 PM
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13. It should be legal everywhere but it won't be as long as lawmakers and
politicians are bought by Big Pharma. Marijuana scares the he'll out them and the alcohol lobby.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 09:22 PM
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14. Nope.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 09:24 PM
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15. Ten years but not 5.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 09:38 PM
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16. I have no idea - things could change quickly - or could stay the same
but the truth right now is that people in states are not going to give in to the feds insistence on two-tier scheduling - one for big pharma and one for a natural plant.

people will simply break the law because the law is stupid. I think that scenario is already at critical mass - tho the pols in the states are not going to push back too hard - the people have just said they are not going to follow a stupid law.

if someone took this to court - how could the DEA justify ANY sentence for someone using mmj when they have marinol listed as a schedule III substance? there is NO science that can back up the reasoning behind such rulings.

so, it only takes a new attn. gen. and a call for a rescheduling hearing to change things overnight - but I doubt that will happen.

however, I think that more and more voters will simply ignore the DEA's scheduling too - and... well, they can't arrest everyone.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 09:44 PM
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17. It's been virtually legal in Alaska since 1975
Edited on Fri Jun-03-11 09:53 PM by Blue_In_AK
and the Ravin v. State decision which ruled that the very strong privacy clause in our state constitution allows possession in one's home of up to four ounces for personal use. Or 25 growing plants. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/legal/l1970/ravin.htm

The only people who get bothered for pot here are people with obvious commercial grows.


There's an interesting Alaska Law Review article here regarding the history of marijuana laws in Alaska. http://www.law.duke.edu/shell/cite.pl?15+Alaska+L.+Rev.+315 I've personally smoked pot with a member of our state Supreme Court and a member of the state Court of Appeals (which handles our criminal appeals). I don't see things toughening up here anytime soon.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:02 PM
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19. Wow, interesting story. Thanks! n-t
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:11 PM
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20. The day after there is a reliable DWB (driving while baked) test - it should be legal everywhere.
If a practical on-site test is developed, there really will be no valid arguments left.

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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:50 PM
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24. Right after they do it for alcohol.
Valid? Arguments? In the same sentence?

--imm
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 11:54 PM
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25. That's kinda the point. They have a validated (this has a specific scientific meaning) field test
for alcohol. Validated does not mean flawless or there would be no need for court, nor is any medical test flawless.

A valid field test for active levels of THC can only assist in bringing an end to blanket criminalization.

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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 01:30 PM
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26. AFAIK you can pass the field test, and still be arrested based on blood alcohol.
And I wouldn't want the legality of a substance to hang on whether it could be properly detected in drivers.

It's not analogous to alcohol.


--imm
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:26 PM
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21. obviously a lot of folks think so
Edited on Fri Jun-03-11 10:27 PM by pitohui
there is a war going on among the cartels or haven't you noticed? the family that cuts off the most heads is going to be a billionaire when pot is legalized...and they probably have better information than we do, this isn't a war over scraps in a backyard, this a war over who will be the first CEO of jack daniel's after prohibition

it has already been legalized in small private use countries in several countries inc. bolivia and colombia

we can't be far behind, there are billions to be made and it has become clear that "positioning" is going on to see who gets those billions or do you really think mexican billionaires are cutting off heads because they're bored and watch too much teevee?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:49 PM
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23. Decriminalized certainly
on the grounds of the economic and legal negative impacts currently. I don't know about legalization.
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