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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 06:54 PM
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Exclusive: Witness In John Wheeler Case (body found in landfill)
Exclusive: Witness In John Wheeler Case
Authorities Won't Say How John P. Wheeler III Died


PHILADELPHIA - Fox 29 has an exclusive interview with someone who says they saw former Bush aide John “Jack” Wheeler after he got off a train in Wilmington and before he disappeared.

Our Claudia Gomez spoke with Iman Goldsborough, a parking lot attendant who encountered a man she believes was Wheeler a day before he officially disappeared. (That woman had already spoken to police about the incident before we spoke with her.)

The encounter happened last Wednesday near an intersection in Wilmington, Del., where police said Wheeler was last seen on Thursday.

Goldsborough says a man matching Wheeler’s description came up to her looking for help finding his car, but he appeared disheveled and disoriented.

More (w/news videos):
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/010411-exclusive%3A-witness-in-john-wheeler-case

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The witness reported that Wheeler appeared disheveled and disoriented, without an overcoat and carrying his shoe. He reportedly said that his briefcase had been stolen. The witness said he acted like he was suffering from dementia.

The news videos at the link include comments by James Fallows and Jan Scruggs.

Previous threads:



Former Reagan, Bush aide, John Wheeler, found murdered in landfill
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x109675

(Delaware) Dumped body was Vietnam War vet (worked in 3 administrations)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4681433


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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:08 PM
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1. My sis sent me a weird conspiracy
article on this.
It begins thusly:
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-official-murdered-after-arkansas-weapons-test-causes-mass-death/
Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test Causes Mass Death
Posted by EU Times on Jan 4th, 2011 // 18 Comments


A shocking report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) states that one of the United States top experts in biological and chemical weapons was brutally murdered after he threatened to expose a US Military test of poison gas that killed hundreds of thousands of animals in Arkansas this past week.

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:21 PM
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2. ah, bringing it all together!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:22 PM
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3. I could start poking holes on that
but it is damn entertaining.

The method of the body disposal is actually consistent with the mafia.

Anyway kept that jewel... I need my tin foil adjusted and could be the source of a good novel.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 11:56 PM
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5. I know
LOL. The article was delicious. There was a time when I would discount stuff like that out of hand. These days I am not so sure. :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:12 PM
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7. The only problem is that this one is
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 08:12 PM by nadinbrzezinski
full of holes.

We still produce phosgene. It is classified as a L III in HAZMAT, for threat... it has industrial uses. And most facilities use it on site.


That is what I meant by the holes.

But I kept it... with a tweak here and there.... ah what a good premise for a murder mystery.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:09 PM
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6. One way to 'win' in Afghanistan?
I found the same link.

It's quite interesting. Does anybody else recall the spate of deaths of biological scientists a few years ago?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:24 PM
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4. This plot will continue to thicken I think
He also had the Signs and symtoms of low sugar or a stroke, both of which could be seen with a few poisons. I am betting he was poisoned.

If I want to bring a russian type plot line to this... I hope the coroner is looking for a very small injury in there...
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 09:38 AM
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8. I'd hesitate before jumping to conclusions
His work on chemical and bioweapons was in the past, and it was as a lawyer, manager and policy analyst, not as a scientist. He worked to support U.S. policy rejecting use of such weapons. His most recent interest was in cyberwarfare.

We don't know what he did at Mitre--where he was a part-time consultant. Mitre put out a statement that didn't say very much, and we're free to be skeptical about that, but we don't have a shred of information, at this point, that would support assassination theories.

The best information about Jack Wheeler is from his friend, James Fallows, at The Atlantic, who challenges the partisan characterizations:

div class="excerpt"]Never Underestimate Fox (Updated)

<snip>
Jack Wheeler cared deeply about public issues, his politics were increasingly conservative, and he held jobs with the federal government under various Bush (and Reagan) administrations. But he was a "Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force" -- not some White House aide -- in the GW Bush era, and, according to his personal CV (pdf here), was briefly part of the "Bush Transition Team to Create Earth Conservation Corps" for George HW Bush. That's his dossier in "politics." (FWIW, he also worked as a young lawyer at the SEC, starting when Jimmy Carter was in office.)

What he actually cared about was civic values and civic virtue; the health of the military; the welfare and self-respect of his fellow veterans; the future direction of great institutions where he had studied (West Point, Yale, Harvard); the long struggle to complete the Vietnam Veterans Memorial; the ongoing effort to restore ROTC programs at Harvard and other elite schools; the level of ethics in public discussion; a number of issues involving disabled children. And more. Recently he paid increasing attention to the nuances of the "cyberwar" threat, and the rise of China. He was a very complicated man, of many parts. But if you gave me ten hours to come up with a thousand descriptions of him, I still would not have thought of.... "Former Bush Aide."

That's the thought that came first to Fox. This tells me more than any number of critiques about the ways Fox differs from a "news" organization.

I am very saddened by Jack Wheeler's loss, but I'm angry that his life would be reduced to a little marker in the neverending partisan wars.


More:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/01/never-underestimate-fox-updated/68800/




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