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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:13 AM
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My biggest problem the DSK issue
Is that people, including, evidently, the French press, insist on using this episode as a way to deride
the sexual mores of an entire society, viz., we are 'puritans.'

I could buy that argument if the story was about a failed pickup attempt at a bar, and our newspapers went
nuts. But the man has been INDICTED on seven counts of sexual ASSAULT.

Are we to believe that our laws against sexual ASSAULT are based on Puritanism? Are DSK's defenders really
that desperate to exonerate his behavior? Is it JUST because he's a 'socialist,' or is Francophilia SO strong
that people here are willing to completely abandon their USUAL response to 'Rich White Man Accused of Assaulting
Poor Black Woman?'

Either way, the equivocation is sickening.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:22 AM
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1. Yup, those awful French...and you're not appalled by the way every
article here talks about how the French think rape is no big deal.

We live in a country where Bush was President for 8 years without being elected.

We invaded a sovreign nation based onm lies, qand all our press carries and does not question those lies.

The French are questioning it because we are a country where authority perpetually lies.

Oh, and show me an article from France saying we're prudes...from France that is, not some made-up crap from here.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:24 AM
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2. We need a Godwin's Law equivalent for the irrelevant crap you posted. nt

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calendargirl Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:54 AM
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5. Gaudin's Law nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:28 PM
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10. No, it is Godwin's Law. Try Google with our spelling and see what happens. nt
Edited on Fri May-20-11 12:28 PM by blondeatlast
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calendargirl Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:50 PM
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16. Jokes evade some people, don't they? nt
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:30 AM
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4. Actually the OP is right on about the french media...

The comments about out puritan blood is all over the place. And the mother of the french woman who was attacked by him told her
to keep quiet.


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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:40 AM
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8. "Strauss-Kahn is being made a scapegoat for 'anti-French puritanism'"
Just one story of countless. You are certainly not reading European papers are you?





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389083/He-like...
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:25 AM
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3. It's the same shell game the French play with regard to capitalism.
Edited on Fri May-20-11 10:26 AM by closeupready
They point and laugh at the US and say "for Americans, it's all about money, everything is always about money, sad - shame shame!" and then, turns out, they are scrabbling hard for spare change at every opportunity, just as greedy as any of us are.

Just because you speak French doesn't mean you aren't a crook. And just because you're French, doesn't excuse you from being held to account for sexual assault.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:59 AM
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6. Do you have a link?
While I can believe some think we're puritans, I can't believe the French condone sexual assault ... at least not the majority of them.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:05 PM
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12. Seconded.
It should be easy to provide links to a few articles where "DSK's defenders really are that desperate to exonerate his behavior", as the OP states.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:04 PM
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13. Gee, click around DU. You'll find them. nt
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:26 PM
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15. I have read most threads on DSK here
and have not found a single instance of

1)someone "defending DSK" or "desperate to exonerate his behavior".
Not one single example.

2)anybody who believes that "US laws against sexual ASSAULT are based on Puritanism".
Nada.

3) anyone who is suggesting that it is "JUST because he's a 'socialist,' or that "Francophilia is SO strong
that people here are willing to completely abandon their USUAL response to 'Rich White Man Accused of Assaulting
Poor Black Woman.'"

Zilch. Zero.

Show us some links to comments that substantiate what you have written in your original post, please.



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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:07 AM
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7. "FroncoPHILIA???"
Edited on Fri May-20-11 11:08 AM by Keith Bee
We the Hell have you been since 1986?????

Unrec.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:26 PM
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9. Yeah, Francophilia isn't pervasive among liberals.
Whatever, dude,

:eyes:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:43 PM
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11. They were defending Polanski, too. SICKENING.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:26 PM
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14. Puritanical American!
:sarcasm:
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