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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:28 AM
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Ron Paul Calls Social Security and Medicare Unconstitutional, Compares Them to ‘Slavery’
Ron Paul Calls Social Security and Medicare Unconstitutional, Compares Them to ‘Slavery’
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/15/paul-ss-medicare-slavery/

Appearing on Fox News Sunday this morning, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) defended his longstanding view that Medicare, Social Security (and pretty much everything else) violate the Constitution. At one point, Paul even claimed that letting Social Security and similar programs to move forward is just like permitting slavery:

WALLACE: You talk a lot about the Constitution. You say Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid are all unconstitutional.

PAUL: Technically, they are. . . . there’s no authority (in the Constitution). Article I, Section 8 doesn’t say I can set up an insurance program for people. What part of the Constitution are you getting it from? The liberals are the ones who use this General Welfare Clause. . . . That is such an extreme liberal viewpoint that has been mistaught in our schools for so long and that’s what we have to reverse—that very notion that you’re presenting.

WALLACE: Congressman, it’s not just a liberal view. It was the decision of the Supreme Court in 1937 when they said that Social Security was constitutional under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.

PAUL: And the Constitution and the courts said slavery was legal to, and we had to reverse that.

Watch it:
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/15/paul-ss-medicare-slavery/
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:30 AM
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1. Keep it up, dipshit! Soon the Paul fanclub will consist of two dumbasses in Ohio. nt
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Mr. Jefferson Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:42 AM
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2. two dumbasses in Ohio...and
one dumb ass from Virginia.

With respect to the two words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. If the words obtained so readily a place in the "Articles of Confederation," and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted. - James Madison.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 04:42 PM
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13. Ahhh... the Constitution Game....
OK... I'll play.

Unfortunately the phrase "general welfare," while important to the Founding Fathers, has become anathema to Republican Party leaders. They are unable to articulate why protecting individuals from the greed and avarice of special interests operating behind closed doors does not fall under the mandate of promoting the general welfare. They are unable to articulate why providing a social safety net does not fall under the mandate of promoting the general welfare. They are left with reading our Constitution aloud and then ignoring its plain words.

If not our elected government, then who shall protect individuals from the greed and avarice of special interests?

This question was answered by Alexander Hamilton in 1791 when he said, "It is ... left to the discretion of the National Legislature, to pronounce, upon the objects, which concern the general Welfare, and for which under that description, an appropriation of money is requisite and proper."
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 10:23 PM
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19. by that standard, the federal government
building roads is also unconstitutional.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 04:44 PM
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14. There is a dumbass Senator in Kentucky that is a fan, also.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:42 AM
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3. I wish somebody would ask the Ron/Rand Paul flakes about
sewage disposal and treatment. I mean, we shouldn't have to pay taxes to support other people's sewage disposal, should we? Isn't real "freedom" a matter of taking care of ourselves and to hell with everybody else?

:rofl:
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:48 AM
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4. Slavery in this day and age is the system wide breakdown of education, creating an ignorant America
The roadmap to contemporay slavery


- Breakdown the public school system, leaving people powerless and undereducated. check. Step one in creating a new slave system.

- Start privatizing schools, so only the elite can get educated. check. Widen the gap between ruling class and slave class.

- Eliminate civics classes to keep people undereducated and powerless. Check.

- Misuse the radio and other media to continue the spread of propaganda. Check.

- Replace real religion and spirituality with "faux religion" brainwashing people with paranoia and hate. Check.

- Take away systems of health care so that the middle class and working class are indebted and powerless financially and physically. Check.


It goes on and on.... Ron Paul is on a crusade to speed up the process of creating a total slave system.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:51 AM
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5. Yet, we have some...
Ron Paul admirers here at DU.

Thankfully, they are few and far between.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:54 AM
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6. What a moran. n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:07 PM
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7. Sure slavery was reversed. But it required an amendment to the Constitution.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:15 PM
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8. What a kook.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:16 PM
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9. What a poisonous snake (nt)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:19 PM
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10. A fifth grader needs to challenge Rand and beat the hell out of him in a test.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:26 PM
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11. Why can't this idiot just stick to ending the empire, the wars, the drug war and bankster rule?
Aren't these momentous and positive enough for him?

Idiot.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:29 PM
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12. Next he'll be calling Congressional supporters of Social Security "Nazis"
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 04:46 PM
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15. He really should move out of the US. He clearly hates it here.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 05:07 PM
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16. Analogy fail, douchebag... Ron Paul is such a loser.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 05:09 PM
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17. Whackadoodle Chic.......

..... It's de rigueur in America.



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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 05:33 PM
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18. Oops, he let that one out with a pfffft.
The moran is so strong in this one that he can't keep it bottled up for too long.
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