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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:13 PM
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Top American Companies Are Creating More Jobs Abroad Than Here
With 96 percent of the top 500 American corporations turning profits this year and stock prices soaring to the highest levels since the recession began, you'd think you'd start to see a dent in that near double-digit unemployment rate. But that's not so, partially because companies are boosting their bottom lines by moving toward outsourcing.

The AP reports corporate giants such as Caterpillar and UPS are creating more jobs beyond American borders than domestically. Both companies are seeing foreign sales growth rates double domestic increases. The AP cites a Washington think tank that found 1.4 of the 2.4 million jobs created by American companies this year are located overseas.

http://consumerist.com/2010/12/top-american-companies-are-creating-more-jobs-abroad-than-here.html



Looking for a job with an American company? Better learn Chinese or Spanish

American companies are hiring as over 1.4 million jobs were created by business this year... overseas. In fact, more jobs were created by American corporations overseas than in America for US workers.

...

The trend helps explain why unemployment remains high in the United States, edging up to 9.8 percent last month, even though companies are performing well: All but 4 percent of the top 500 U.S. corporations reported profits this year, and the stock market is close to its highest point since the 2008 financial meltdown.

But the jobs are going elsewhere. The Economic Policy Institute, a Washington think tank, says American companies have created 1.4 million jobs overseas this year, compared with less than 1 million in the U.S. The additional 1.4 million jobs would have lowered the U.S. unemployment rate to 8.9 percent, says Robert Scott, the institute's senior international economist.

http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/looking-for-a-job-with-an-american-company-better-learn-chinese-or-spanish



Where are the jobs? For many companies, overseas

(AP) – 5 days ago

Corporate profits are up. Stock prices are up. So why isn't anyone hiring?

Actually, many American companies are — just maybe not in your town. They're hiring overseas, where sales are surging and the pipeline of orders is fat.

More than half of the 15,000 people that Caterpillar Inc. has hired this year were outside the U.S. UPS is also hiring at a faster clip overseas. For both companies, sales in international markets are growing at least twice as fast as domestically.
The trend helps explain why unemployment remains high in the United States, edging up to 9.8 percent last month, even though companies are performing well: All but 4 percent of the top 500 U.S. corporations reported profits this year, and the stock market is close to its highest point since the 2008 financial meltdown.

But the jobs are going elsewhere. The Economic Policy Institute, a Washington think tank, says American companies have created 1.4 million jobs overseas this year, compared with less than 1 million in the U.S. The additional 1.4 million jobs would have lowered the U.S. unemployment rate to 8.9 percent, says Robert Scott, the institute's senior international economist.

"There's a huge difference between what is good for American companies versus what is good for the American economy," says Scott.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iFY0R9agrMVljqtaB6ccsILSKd3Q?docId=771fbe245e624cbd95ab5a49122dd701
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:30 PM
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1. That sucking sound you hear...
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:32 PM
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2. Thanks for that. it goes right along with my latest op-ed...K&R
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:34 PM
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3. I wonder if all the "IPO=American jobs" posters will come and read this...
They were sure busy all weekend.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:39 PM
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4. Wanna bet that Obama and Congress do absolutely zero about this?
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 02:43 PM by leveymg
There's a range of actions that could be taken, including changes in law or simply measures taken by agencies, such as tax and antitrust enforcement, to encourage domestic reinvestment of corporate profits in U.S. jobs creation.

But, does anyone seriously believe, anymore, that the US Government and MSM are actually doing anything more than keeping the American people quiet and pacified while the global banks and multinationals strip out the last remaining assets in the U.S.?

Please, help yourself to more corporate tax breaks, and there, in the corner of the Treasury, is a bag or two of remaining cash. Can we help you carry that out, sirs?
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 08:48 PM
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7. I seriously doubt they'll do a thing..
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 08:49 PM by ProfessionalLeftist
..they haven't up until now. They should be penalized for taking jobs out of the US when unemployment is over 6%. Period. No tax breaks - tax penalties. "Protectionism" be damned.

As is though, these schmucks are being rewarded by our own government for destroying the US economy.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 03:34 PM
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5. Recommend
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:19 PM
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6. As we sign more and more Free Trade Deals. Conservative
Eonomic Fundamentalism's Free Trade Policies have
contributed mightily to our present Crisis in Unemployment.

Poor Management or no mgmt because Trade had to be free
of all regulations has meant a rush to the bottome economically
for our citizens. This policy favors the Elites, investors
and Wall Street but not Main Street.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 08:49 PM
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8. K&R n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 09:06 PM
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9. This is what everyone should be talking about. (no text)
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 01:16 AM
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10. Late night kick
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 01:26 AM
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11. kr. & that's what they're doing with their tax breaks.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 08:54 AM
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12. And they're doing it with tax cuts paid by cutting your infrastructure and social programs
So... We're destroying our quality of life to give tax cuts to corporations to make slaves out of people in the third world.

Insanity. K&R.
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ctaylors6 Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 09:06 AM
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13. the referenced article wasn't so much about outsourcing
as it was about the growth in many overseas markets. For example, Caterpillar opened 3 plants in China for sales in China. The article gave few examples of what I consider true "outsourcing." I'd be curious to know what percentage of the 1.4 million jobs that were created overseas were jobs that americans could have done here in the US. I don't really have a problem with, for example, a US company using local employees for local manufacturing jobs for products that will be sold locally.
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supertruck97 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 10:54 AM
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14. Why is this surprising?
This is one of the unintended consequences to things like the minimum wage and labor unions.

If I can pay a person in, say Houston around $10 per hour to make my widget. Plus whatever payroll taxes, benefits, etc that take that number more to $13 per hour. Or, I can pay someone in India/China/Indonesia, etc $5 per hour without the benefits.

Which should I choose?

Now, compound that issue with some of the corruption in labor unions in, say Detroit. In Detroit, I'm paying $15 per hour, plus BIG benefits, plus they are only allowed to make so many widgets per day, plus I have to pay a fine if someone else helps make the widget, etc etc, and the hourly cost to make my widget is now maybe $20-25.

Again, the decision to outsource gets easier and easier.

Now, I could choose to make less or no money by keeping the job in the US and paying through the teeth for labor. But why should I? The purpose of a business is to make money for the owner or shareholder or investor or mom&pop. Why should that person/party suffer a financial loss in order to make themselves feel good by keeping that job in the US?

Not to mention what happens when China Widget Company starts a widget store down the street and charges $6 for the exact same widget that I sell for $10 or $20 or $30 (in order to cover the higher cost of labor)?

This is the issue with a Global Economy. It's great to try to look out for your own people, but the second someone down the street sells it cheaper, your business is bust. The only way to stay in the business is to try to make the widget for less money in order to keep up with the competition.

What is the answer?

Tariffs? Nope, can't do that. If you raise tariffs on incoming Chinese goods, and China does the same to US goods, I'll no longer be able to compete in the Chinese market to sell my widgets either!

Force a tax/penalty for outsourcing? Again, raising my cost to do business and effectively shutting my business down so that China Widget Company gets complete market share.

Create incentives for hiring domestically? Ah, now here is an idea. But how? How do you give incentives without adding to the debt? Through tax breaks maybe? Nope, that's a big no-no on these forums because it adds to the debt and can have other unintended consequences.

So to recap, Outsourcing IS an issue. No Doubt. The problem is, what is the solution??
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 11:23 AM
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15. These are extranational corps, not international.
They owe no loyalty to any country, but take from all.
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