No One Cares

[Angry Dragon]

To clarify: I am talking about the people in power. The elected officials, the power elites. Those are the people that do not care about this country nor the people at the bottom.

It is time for a little nation wide civil disobedience. It is either that or there is going to be something much worse happening in this country. I have thought for a while that a 10 million person march on DC would make the powers that be sit up and notice that the people are really fed up with the elected officials have helped destroy this country. They have lied to get into office and then once in have done everything they could to stuff as much money into their pockets, and to hell with the people.

My thoughts now have drifted into the realm of just shutting the country down for a number of days. From one day to a week. Starting on April 16, 2011, everyone just stop going to work. Shut the country down, let the elites figure out how they are going to run a country that has no workers.

Just my thoughts.......

[MineralMan]

1. If no one cares, there will be no such civil disobedience.

The reality is that no general strike or any other such thing is going to happen. There are many reasons for this, but the main one is that there just aren't that many people who think things are that bad.

If you think that such a thing can happen, then good luck with your plans.

[Angry Dragon]

6. When I wrote no one cares

I meant the elected officials and the power elites
I should have been more specific ......

[MineralMan]

9. My interpretation still stands. Far too few people for there

to be a substantial showing in such a thing.

As someone pointed out, few people who are currently employed would act in a general strike, and the already unemployed won't cause any impact. Further, those who are unemployed do not have the resources to assemble in a single location, so there will be no 10 million man march or any such thing.

That strategy is not one that will succeed at this time. It is that simple.

[Angry Dragon]

13. Can this country continue on the path that it is on and survive??

Is there a breaking point??

[sabrina 1]

14. Yes, some people said that about France and Britain and Greece

and Ireland also, but they turned out to be wrong. Those people have been brilliant in their pursuit of those who took their countries down and starting with Iceland, now Ireland have begun the process of dealing with the criminals. Two countries have thrown out their governments so far, and the investigations have begun into how the economy collapsed.

This will spread throughout Europe as governments, like the French government, refused to listen to those millions of citizens who told them what they wanted. I am sure that government will fall also and like Iceland, the new government will begin investigations and prosecutions, and efforts to retrieve the lost money.

And it all began in Iceland when the people went out into the streets and demanded accountability.

Iceland is a microcosm of this country and every other affected by the greedy, corrupt, global gamblers. The canary in the coal mine. Now, Ireland is following their example, and I hope the rest of Europe's complicit governments fall like dominoes so the people get back control of their countries.

There will be no progress made in this country until there is accountability for the crimes committed against the American people. This was a global crime of great magnitude affecting millions, perhaps billions of ordinary people around the world and the people are now rising up everywhere to get that accountability.

We are always a little behind, but it will happen here also, and if it takes strikes and shutting down major airlines etc, as they did in Europe, then so be it. That is nothing compared to what has happened in the lives of so many people.

[theophilus]

26. What is your solution? Do you see a problem? You are about

as inspiring as a bag of hammers, imo.

[Mulhane]

19. Those who fall blame themselves

Especially white middle-aged men have bought into the Horatio Alger myth that there is no excuse for "failure." So they blame themselves for lost jobs, repossessed houses, "failed" plans, etc. They usually have multiple guns around, so what is the US way social safety valve? Just watch the news...the middle class is going privately postal, and shooting themselves, sometimes their family (My burden, I must take them with me)and often a cop or two. It is just how the elites would want it....die quicker, don't bother us about safety nets....we need to keep the money in the hands of the rich...

[Ozymanithrax]

2. So we should stop going to work...

That leads and employer to stop employing us for cause. That leads to stop going to the grocery store to buy food since we have no money to buy it.
That leads our families to hunger
That leads the us to stop paying the banks or our landlords for our homes.
That leads to homelessness.

Civil disobedience needs to have more impact on those we target than us.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Works for me.

I'll put it on my calendar as soon as I get the word.

[Cleita]

4. General strikes only work when there are strong

unions backing the workers who strike. Read about the Seattle general strike in 1919. http://depts.washington.edu/labhist/strike/

We can however, scare our elected leaders by letting them know how disgusted we are with them. If their phones ring off the hook with disgruntled constituents, their email boxes and snail mail boxes fill up with the same, you might see some gradual awareness that fat checks from corporate America aren't going to be enough if a really angry population decides to hit the streets and God forbid riot. It will take solidarity with one another to do this.

[Speck Tater]

5. It will never happen. Like you said in the OP "Nobody Cares". nt

[hfojvt]

7. Republicans will be shutting down the Government soon enough

Ironically, they didn't even save any money the last time they did this - quite the opposite. After being shut down for a week or two, they brought all the Federal workers back and then paid them for doing nothing for those two weeks.

[seabeyond]

8. people care. all over the place. that is the problem. i care about the laws being broken, corp

corruption, abuse, greed, power.

another supports the corp

another is outraged by wiki and that is the one to make us revolt. i dont like wiki and what happened and wont support.

what is the revolt you are talking.

[Angry Dragon]

10. I do support WikiLeaks

I have a right to know what the elected officials are doing in my name.

[seabeyond]

16. so your calling for the mass outrage at the right to know ALL.... regardless of relevance

at the means of stealing over 260k cables for fishing exploration.

this is why what you want wont happen. you feel the RIGHT to have the info with no secrecy or privacy at the means of theft by employee. others wont support that outrage. but then they will be outraged say, about TSA and their lawbreaking naked scans and groping, while others will declare a right to be safe.

this isn't about wiki. you are missing my point if you focus on that.

[Angry Dragon]

18. I understand Wiki was only part of your response

I do understand that every country needs secrets
However we have the right to know when this country carries out illegal activities to overthrow a foreign government.
We have a right to know when our country lies to us.

edit: This country is being corrupted by elected politicians, the Supreme Court, bankers and wall street. The bottom and middle of this country are being attacked every day. It has to stop or there are only so many outcomes.

[MrMickeysMom]

11. I get your message...

So, after yet another tax year, perhaps we the pee-pole will get angry enough?

[IDemo]

12. Million or ten million person marches are so 20th Century

They have become nothing more than another Quirky News Bit of the Day for the MSM. The numbers are artificially lowered or ignored and the message is made out to be "loonies waste time in the mid-day sun".

A nationwide boycott, on the other hand, wouldn't threaten your job status and would send a message directly to the source of the problem. That's only if millions (preferably tens of millions) participate.

[LiberalLoner]

15. I like this idea very much. I think it's workable, won't cause harm to most people (I hope) and

might very well get the attention of the elite.

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. I think the fact that they sell us out routinely, and then hide behind their power

to keep it from us is all we need to know.

[Octafish]

20. Here's Who.

William K. Black on Wall Street, corruption and the current crisis

EXCERPT...

JAY: Yeah, they're not going to be happy if Julian Assange has the goods--he claims the next WikiLeaks is about the banking system. So they may not be very--they may hope he's in jail in Sweden sooner than later.

BLACK: That's certainly true. Here's the types of things we do know. It is true that hundreds, maybe thousands of financial markets shut down. Now, they shut down for a really good reason, and that is, you know, we've all been to a picnic or a conference where they gave out bottles of water and, you know, everyone had it on their desk or on the table. How many people would drink that bottle of water if they knew that 1 in 100 bottles was contaminated? The answer is pretty much zero.

JAY: Yeah, nobody. Nobody would drink it.

BLACK: That's right. So what bankers figured out was, oh my God, other bankers are lying about their asset values, and they're lying not a little bit but massively. And, of course, the bankers figured that out because they knew they were lying themselves, and they rightly suspected that their counterparties were doing the same thing. And as soon as that happens, then the markets start freezing up. That really will cause very severe economic problems. The answer to that is either honesty or a bigger lie. So my policy would have been honesty. The central bank's policy was a bigger lie, that they would hide the losses, secretly subsidize the richest people in the world, the absolute one thousandth of 1--top 1 percent. The wealthiest people in the world who had caused the crisis the Fed would bail out, and it would do so even if those people were in other countries, and even if, say, the Germans were late in bailing out their folks. So the alternative for insolvent places is to assure liquidity from the central banks by lending and by checking the asset quality to see whether they're good assets. What we know is that the Fed stopped looking at asset quality and took, deliberately, junk and valued it as if it were good stuff. There was no reason to do that, and doing so exposed all of us to tremendous losses and, again, created this subsidy for the worst, most fraudulent institutions.

[Octafish]

21. What we need to do...Organize the People Who Care.

Start with those who do care. Get them organized. They'll recruit new members. Our weapon: The Truth.

[customerserviceguy]

22. If you want to see a shutdown

just wait until the tea partiers do just that when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling.

I doubt that those still lucky enough to be employed are going to want to put those jobs on the line just to send a message to anybody.

[Raine]

23. Not going to happen

the more that is taken from people the more beaten down and scared they become. Even if they did something like that the power has shifted from the people to the corporations, they control it all. People have no power, the only power they had was the vote but the corporations control both parties now. The only power people have is how they spend their dollars and they are even taking the dollars from them.

[Synicus Maximus]

24. Sounds interesting but what is the goal? Having a general strike

is cool and all but what will the demands be? Having a strike to say "we are not happy" will accomplish nothing. Saying we are fed up with elected officials, begs the question, didn't we just vote these people into office? If you are suggesting some kind of coup, where is the leader or leaders? A coup without a plan or leader would be anarchy. I know some people like that idea, but I'll pass.

[theophilus]

25. Great riches disable that little bone in your head that makes other people

"care". In the long run, they will be made to care more. Of course, in the long run we'll all be dead.