Sorry, but i am having trouble with this..."Pelosi Called Bush to Thank Him"

[kpete]

Pelosi Called Bush to Thank Him

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), the former House Speaker and a passionate critic of President George W. Bush, said she called the former president to thank him for his role in getting Osama bin Laden, the New York Times reports.

Said Pelosi: "He is a very friendly person, as you know, and he thanked me for my call. And I think he appreciated it. But I wanted him to know the appreciation that many of us have in a bipartisan way. We have all recognized in our public comments that his role was important in having this success."

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/bush-aides-walk-delicate-line-on-bin-laden/
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/05/04/pelosi_called_bush_to_thank_him.html

[drm604]

1. I think this kind of graciousness makes us look good.

It makes the Dems look good and the Repubs who are trying to give Bush ALL the credit look petty.

[blondeatlast]

16. +1. nt

[spooky3]

42. Agreed. And if she really feels as she does, nothing else matters.

She has inside info that I don't have. We all know Bush didn't do everything he should have, but the CIA and others working behind the scenes kept at it while he was Pres., and he could have stopped them, so even with just that, it doesn't hurt to credit him.

[GeorgeGist]

57. Orwell would love you.

Stupid is Good.

[drm604]

63. I have no idea why you believe that Orwell would love me.

I've never met the man. In fact I'm pretty sure he died before I was ever even born.

Also you're incorrect in saying that stupid is good. That makes no sense.

[FormerDittoHead]

65. deleted. out of place in the thread. n/t

[louis-t]

2. Boner prob-a-ly forced her to do it.

Otherwise, bushie would be insufferable.

[Skinner]

3. To be honest, I think it provides a very nice contrast...

...to the petty right-wingers who refuse to acknowledge the involvement of the current President of the United States.

(I read that NYT story, and I was annoyed that they didn't make any mention of Palin or other Republicans who ignored the president.)

[kpete]

7. okay, you are probably right about pettiness...

but it still smarts

peace, kpete

[drm604]

9. I guess you and I are the only ones who feel that way.

:shrug:

[blondeatlast]

18. Nope.

:hi:

[drm604]

22. Yea, there do appear to be a few others.

At the time it was just Skinner and I. :hi:

[woodsprite]

34. If I were her, I'd be more inclined to thank him for giving up,

which gave this administration the chance to 'get him'.

[MicaelS]

28. Agreed, it shows generousity....

And it was the proper thing to do.

[Marr]

33. A nice contrast for whom? The only people who would be impressed by that sort of

polite inclusion are liberals. Conservatives view it as weakness and an endorsement of their own "we did it-- fuck you" position, and I suspect most independents and disinterested sorts would view it the same way.

[leftstreet]

41. A nice contrast to BushInc woulda been a trial, not extrajudicial assassination

Meh. It doesn't even matter

[athena]

69. I think that some independents and moderate republicans might be impressed.

There may be independents and Republicans who might have been voting for Republicans out of the belief that the Republicans are tougher on terror. Those people will notice that the Republican response is childish and that the Democratic response is gracious. Thanking Bush does not take away from the fact that the credit for leadership belongs completely to Obama here.

[Skinner]

78. A nice contrast for me.

:)

[blondeatlast]

49. She just blessed his l'il ol heart, Skinner. the tell is the last line and the

"public comments."

Remember this--she did it again...

[PeaceNikki]

52. Agreed 100%. Classy move.

[OhioChick]

4. I'm tired of all this bipartisan BS from the Dems. n/t

[drm604]

25. I agree with you about the bipartisanship when it comes to legislation,

but in this context it isn't about legislation, it's about politics, and this kind of graciousness is good politics, in my humble opinion.

[woo me with science]

60. Important distinction. I agree. nt

[Raven]

5. Oh, for the love of God! When will these people learn that these

Republicans are incorrigible, irredeemable, poisonous, liars and theives.

[FormerDittoHead]

67. She was just finding out what MORE she could do to satisfy his every last whim.

She wouldn't have called if only we had a veto-proof majority!

[Hotler]

72. He should have called and thanked her....

for talking impeachment off the table. Show me some fucking spine, some backbone, anything thing but ass kissing.

[Angry Dragon]

6. From the Onion??

[orwell]

8. It's called class...

...something frequently missing from the Cons...

[spooky3]

43. +1

[KansDem]

10. Maybe she said, "Thanks for staying the fuck out of the way...

...since you are an incompetent nincompoop!"

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. .....for being out of office so we could get bin Laden"

[earthside]

12. Unreal.

I am sad to say that it is this kind of party 'leadership' mindset that explains the lack of enthusiasm among the Democratic/liberal/progressive base that contributed to the defeats of 2010.

Thanking the guy who was "truly not that concerned about him " just six months after 9/11?

Who, in 2005, had the CIA disband the unit tasked with find bin Laden.

Pelosi is thanking Bush for what?

For me, this success is an American one, to be sure ... but that does not mean that it is a Bush policy success for which he deserves to be thanked: no way, no how.

[DefenseLawyer]

13. This is why we get our brains bashed in

We're playing by Queensbury Rules and they're in a streetfight to the death.

[Solly Mack]

14. How precious is that....

[BlackHoleSon]

15. All the Bushies

know they didn't do shit to catch Osama!
This, to me, is a great way of rubbing their faces in it. Same with Obama's invite to Bush to the WTC site.

[Still Blue in PDX]

74. No, they don't know that.

Makes me sick, but I do know people who are giving Bush credit for this. The wars are Obama's fault, but killing OBL is all Bush. 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

Their logic is pure craziness, and their grasp of time and space is as cockamamie as a poorly written Doctor Who script.

[WilliamPitt]

17. She did it for the same reasons we observed Muslim burial rites for OBL.

We are better than that which we oppose.

[blondeatlast]

21. How quaint, Will. (+1). nt

[Marr]

38. There is no hard requirement for burying a body in 24 hours in Islam.

Extenuating circumstances are recognized all the time, with burials delayed as needs dictate. Bin Laden's body was dumped to get the story over as quickly as possible, and to minimize his martyr status by avoiding a traditional burial place.

Not an unwise decision, I think-- but also not an expression of our overpowering righteousness.

[WilliamPitt]

51. I refer

to the reading of the rites that was performed by a Muslim, as well as the washing and wrapping of the body that preceded burial.

They did that, too.

[crickets]

53. Doing the right thing, setting a good example...all that adult stuff

isn't necessarily pleasant. I have to admit my first reaction was an eyeroll and a sigh, but calling him was the right thing to do. Plus gracious behavior makes Bushco and the Republicans look bad by comparison. Wait, did I say that last part out loud? :)

[Jefferson23]

19. It would be a classy gesture IF there existed even a shred of truth to

her statement. Thanks him for his role in "getting" bin Laden..sure thing there Pelosi.

Then she has to add more bullshit: "We have all recognized in our public comments that his role was important in having this success."


SNIP*
And just six months after 9/11, Bush suggested in a press conference that Bin Laden was not a top priority for his administration. Asked whether Bush thought capturing Bin Laden was important, Bush scolded those who cared about Bin Laden for not “understand the scope of the mission” because Bin Laden was just “one person,” whom Bush said, “I really just don’t spend that much time on“:

Who knows if he’s hiding in some cave or not. We haven’t heard from him in a long time. The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. He’s just a person who’s been marginalized. … I don’t know where he is. I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/02/bush-bin-laden/



A highly offensive political move Pelosi, and nothing more.

[newspeak]

31. maybe she could also thank him for tanking the economy

causing a huge deficit for bogus wars, especially Iraq while watching our unemployment rise (maybe he thought we were all going to be soldiers). Oh, and thank him for further deregulating his friends who helped cause economic harm here and globally.

[Jefferson23]

39. Give her time, the use of bi-partisanship is extraordinary with the current administration. n/t

[Zorra]

20. Crow is always best when served cold, with unabashed graciousness

and aplomb on the side.

[blondeatlast]

23. Exactly. nt

[crickets]

55. +1 *snicker*

[blondeatlast]

62. See post #47; she "blessed his l'il ol' heart." nt

[krispos42]

24. !

:puke:

I thought she was kissing his butt when she wouldn't even CONSIDER thinking about maybe impeaching the fucker. Now this?


How, pray tell, was his role important in this success?

The only thing that I can think of that he fucked up hard enough, long enough for Obama to get it done.

[A wise Man]

26. I'm so sick....

of these Dems. cowaring to the republicans every chance they get. Bush is the most suspicious ex-president ever in this country. Back from a vacation one and a half week prior to 9/11...and he's in Florida reading a book to kids when he can't read himself on the day of the attack. Pelosi wimped out when she took inpeachment off the table and now she wants too be like the ignorant rethugs and give the worst president ever credit. I would say FU Pelosi....but i don't want nothing to do with you. Dems. have become woost or they are part of the problems we have.

[Lucian]

27. Yeah, so do I.

What did Bush do about OBL? Other than ignore him and say he wasn't concerned about him?

Oh. That's right. Nothing.

[librechik]

29. the Dems know how to be gracious and reach out to their enemies

The PuKKKes sure do not.

[zbdent]

30. what did Bush do?

Please? Some facts ... please???

Imagine the contrast ...

Bush admin leaves information on terrorism ... AND THE INCOMING PRESIDENT USES THAT INFORMATION TO BUILD ON THE BATTLE ...

Clinton admin leaves information on terrorism ... and the incoming pResident ignores that information ...

[Jefferson23]

37. It's bullshit and to call it gracious and or classy is offensive imo.

If you agree it is a good political move, fine..at least call it that. I don't believe
you can have it both ways..he was an abysmal president on every level..especially on bin Laden.

His arrogance and ego is what prompted him to refer to bin Laden as "... I don’t know where he is. I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you."

[athena]

70. Bush's role was huge.

9/11 happened under him. If Gore had been president, 9/11 might never have happened. Without 9/11, the capturing of Bin Laden would not have been front-page news for days.

(I'm being extremely sarcastic here, but thanking someone for his role is not necessarily the same as thanking him for his positive role.)

[zbdent]

73. I've said that the attacks on 9/11/2001 would never have happened (under Gore) ...

because all the "liberally-biased media" would still be covering "unconstitutionally defeated" George W. Bush's ongoing court battle to be installed as President.

There would still be protesters at the White House, camping out every day, with media coverage of the "vigil". Rush Limbaugh would still doing his old Clinton bit "America Held Hostage!"

And, after the 2008 election ... my statement about the 2000 election has been shown to be quite accurate ... because, if it weren't for the "liberally-biased media", the birther movement and the 'baggers would never have gained a toehold.

[joeybee12]

32. I think they should have just ignored him, not slammed him, but ignored him...

Bush purposely tried NOT to capture Bin laden.

[zbdent]

40. as was stated on the Stephanie Miller show this morning ...

if torture and waterboarding worked ...

Why didn't George W. Bush take out bin Laden in 2002? 2003? 2004? 2005? 2006? 2007? 2008?

[joeybee12]

66. Very good point...nt

[Dr Fate]

35. Compare this to how the Bush admin engaged in their "9/11 is Clinton's Legacy!" campaign. n/t

n/t

[robcon]

36. Pelosi gets some props for this.

She didn't have to do it, but it was a welcome message, I'm sure.

[buddysmellgood]

44. Also thank him for letting Osama attack in the first place.

[no_hypocrisy]

45. Thanking him for leaving the WH on January 21, 2009.

[mmonk]

46. And people want to know why I'm planning to become independent.

He should be thanking her.

[blondeatlast]

47. She just blessed his l'il ol' heart... Note the CAREFUL language she used.

Some of you are missing the "damn with faint praise" in the last line:

"We have all recognized in our public comments that his role was important in having this success."

Somewhere along Ms. Pelosi's bloodline is a l'il bit of Atlanta gentility.

[Celebration]

48. LOL!

yep................

[crickets]

58. Bwaha! Good eye.

:7

[Zorra]

64. Well, I declare...

I do believe she did just that.
;-)

[JuniperLea]

68. Exactly right...

I'm not sure why this is an issue at all.

[seabeyond]

50. me too. nt

[blondeatlast]

54. See post #47. She didn't say what y'all think she said. nt

[seabeyond]

59. ah hahah. thank you so so so much. i have read so much because of how

everything is being interpreted for agenda. i let this one go. lol. and there is you... a fellow du poster, giving a heads up. thanks. will go read.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

56. Did she thank him for the two lost wars and the thousands of dead?

[Urban Prairie]

61. His role was only that of an incompetent lackey figurehead for the PNAC neocons

Bush was selected as POTUS, but his claim as being the "Decider" was his and only his delusion. Once his puppetmaster Cheney had set things up to be on automatic autopilot, only then did he cut some of the strings connected to his marionette, during the Shrub's second term. Pelosi can thank Bush, but it is in reality Cheney who should accept her "gratitude".

[progressoid]

71. Thanks for nothin.

[JitterbugPerfume]

75. kill them with kindness

--good for Nancy

[Permanut]

76. K & R, but there is no such thing

as a "badly written Doctor Who script".

[JI7]

77. i guess Obama would never have gotten Bin LAden if Bush

had gotten him.

[jillan]

79. And then she thanked Bill Clinton.

[Octafish]

80. It's the least she could do...after telling the drunk impeachment was off the table.

NSA must have some nasty stuff on everybody who's anybody.

[unkachuck]

81. Nancy, Nancy, Nancy....

....you shouldn't be thanking the war-criminal chimp for anything....it makes you look like a Republican sympathizer....

[MessiahRp]

82. And in turn he should have thanked her, after all she took impeachment off the table.

Basically protected him from War Crimes investigations. They should be pals considering the amount of cover she gave him.

Rp

[David__77]

83. Raising Bush's profile is a good thing. Believe it.

You can't ignore Bush on this. Silence is a statement in itself.

[deacon]

84. blechhhhhhh. n/t