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Appenzell Wars Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:35 PM
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Global warming does not cause earthquakes nor does it anger mother earth.
We have a hard enough time dealing with the greedy short sided skeptics on the other side of the argument without or own side turning a scientific matter into a religious one.

Religion, even fluffy religions with bunnies, have no place in scientific debate.

There is no mother earth... there is a rock with a very thin atmosphere that is warming due to the burning of eons old carbon.

Earthquakes are a result of physical pressures deep within the earth's crust not a result atmospheric temperatures increasing.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:39 PM
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1. Here is another one that makes me bang my head...
Disasters are caused by god because those hit did something bad.

I saw that in a video on ABC over the weekend, it was a kid who said "God sent the tornadoes because we were bad" Some adult had to teach that kid that.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:45 PM
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:45 PM
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2. Mother Earth is merely a metaphor... and a good one.
Mother Earth is merely a metaphor... and a good one. I'm not aware of anyone who believes the earth is one large, conscious entity.

When I hear someone refer to Mother Earth, I assume they are referring to the delicate and interdependent balances of life, biomes, ecologies, etc.

Although I'm not clever enough to dogmatically state whether metaphors have any place an informal discussions... :shrug:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:48 PM
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6. That is exactly what I mean when I use the term...
She gives life to us all, hence the "Mother" part. We should treat her like our Mother.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:45 PM
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4. Would the melting of those glaciers affect physical pressures deep within the earth's crust,
sifting weight ever so subtlety?

Thanks for he thread, Appenzell Wars.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:49 PM
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:51 PM
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9. I'm not suggesting it to be a primary cause so much as an aggravating effect.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:03 PM
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:24 PM
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15. Well Chaos Theory to be more exact, but I didn't see any definitive criticism of this,
Edited on Tue May-03-11 05:25 PM by Uncle Joe
as a possibility.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

Chaos theory is a field of study in applied mathematics, with applications in several disciplines including physics, economics, biology, and philosophy. Chaos theory studies the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions; an effect which is popularly referred to as the butterfly effect. Small differences in initial conditions (such as those due to rounding errors in numerical computation) yield widely diverging outcomes for chaotic systems, rendering long-term prediction impossible in general.<1> This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future behavior is fully determined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved.<2> In other words, the deterministic nature of these systems does not make them predictable.<3><4> This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.

Chaotic behavior can be observed in many natural systems, such as the weather.<5> Explanation of such behavior may be sought through analysis of a chaotic mathematical model, or through analytical techniques such as recurrence plots and Poincar maps.



It seems logical to me that when the pressures of conflicting crusts pushing against one another build up to such a critical level, that the tipping point; becomes drastically reduced as to the trigger effect causing them to snap or buckle and thus the earthquake; to take place.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:17 PM
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14. large ice masses depress the crust, proven by the shapes of our continents.
greenland and the south pole being the 2 largest, also have a sizeable gravitational field.


so your saying if we remove the ice theres no effect? hahaha good one.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:28 PM
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16. No I'm saying the opposite,
perhaps you meant to address that to the OP?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:00 PM
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19. oh sorry, yeah i did lol.
i agree with you. ice mass has a large influence
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:47 PM
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5. Actually, there is some evidence that changes in crustal loading...
...owing to the re-distribution of water weight
owing to global climate change may actually be
a contributor to earthquakes.

Sorry...

Tesha
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:50 PM
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8. Sounds pretty unlikely. Link?
n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:00 PM
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10. Look it up Missouri.
Trillions of tons of weight being redistributed from the poles has been shown to have a deformative effect.

Greenland is going to go off like a cosmic 4th of July.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:53 AM
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26. In other words, you have nothing.
Edited on Wed May-04-11 08:54 AM by robcon
One of the faults of the global warming supporters is in going too far in predictions/scenarios. These stupid ideas undermine belief in the science behind global warming.

You've been had. Read George Monbiot's perceptive article on the excesses/contradictions of the green movement.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/02/env...



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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:14 PM
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23. Google "crustal-loading ice" and pick that first Google Books result. (NT)
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:13 PM
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22. The Earth is just a big heat engine - - and when it overheats...the energy must go somewhere...
Iceland is due for a big cracking open as their ice gets thinner over their volcanoes



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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:07 PM
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12. Your atheist impersonation is impressive.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:09 PM
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:32 PM
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17. I had a science teacher who was angry about the way animals are
portrayed in movies, tv and cartoons. We do misrepresent nature on many levels.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:37 PM
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18. Kicked and recommended.
We'd all be better off if we could focus on what is scientifically true as opposed to what is not. Global warming is quite bad enough without needing to make things up.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:05 PM
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20. true
the government causes earthquakes.
I learned it from Jesse Ventura's show.
Fact!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:09 PM
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21. Thank you. I hate the "Mother Earth is Punishing Us" shit.
It's no different than Pat Robertson saying a Katrina was punishment for sin.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:20 PM
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24. What about the all father is punishing us.
You know, ODIN is pissed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:55 AM
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:21 PM
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25. K&R...
:thumbsup:

Sid
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:06 AM
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28. Oh wise one let me ask. What killed the dinosaurs?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:16 AM
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:17 AM
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30. Lol
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:30 AM
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31. Why are you continuing this thread?
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:29 PM
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32. Locking
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