Reasons on why I believe Bin Laden was already in the Pakistan custody

[thewiseguy]

I personally am starting to believe that Pakistan had Bin Laden in their custody (not protection) for a while. Here is why:

1- Bin Laden's compound was built near a military base in a neighborhood where most residents are ex military members. Compound allegedly had security gates and 18 feet walls plus barbed wire. You would think the Pakistanis would know who was living in a mansion that close to their military base!

2- Bin Laden's compound was built in 2005. His last video came out in 2004. The famous video that he did during the presidential elections when Kerry was running vs Bush. The October surprise.

3- President Obama did not wait for the results of the DNA matching to come back. Pakistan may had already carried out those tests with our help long before.

4- There were only 4 people on the compound when we attacked it. We are talking about a giant mansion with only 4 people living in it. You would think Bin Laden would have his bodyguards with him, unless he was already in custody. Who was manning the security gates anyway?

5- Just two years ago Bin Laden was said to be not involved in planning of Al Qaeda operations any more and that he was just an ideological figure head. His deputy, Zawahiri was said to be in charge then.

With all that said I do not think Pakistan was necessarily extending Osama any protection or were serious about hiding him. Otherwise I am pretty sure they would have gotten him out of there long before we attempted this raid. Hillary Clinton allegedly had told the Pakistanis last year you know very well where Osama is. Do not you think they would have moved Osama to another location if they were hiding him?

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[Wickerman]

2. check your point #2

I think he is known to have done videos well into 2006.

This link suggests later:


2003-2007: Al-Qaeda continued to release time-sensitive and professionally-verified videos demonstrating Bin Laden's continued survival as recently as August 2007.

September 2007: Osama bin Laden appeared in his first videotape in nearly three years, to mark the sixth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the United States.

Jan. 24, 2010 - Bin Laden claimed responsibility for the failed Dec. 25 bombing of US airliner in an audio tape and threatened more strikes on US targets.



Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/140226/20110502/timeline-of-osama-bin-laden-al-qaeda-life-attacks-world-trade-center-9-11-chronology-osama-bin-laden.htm#ixzz1LCwyUOgm

[thewiseguy]

6. Not necessarily true.

Bin Laden only released a video tape once after 2004. But even then many people doubted the video was real.

During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of 3½ minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while his remarks continue. From bin Laden's mention of current events it appeared to indicate the video is recently made and thus also proving bin Laden is still alive, however the mentions of current events occur only in the frozen sections of the tape. <28> <29>

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His last real video tape came out in 2004. Since then it has been audio tapes and no footage.

[Pab Sungenis]

3. One possible explanation for one point.

The more people living on the compound, the more suspicious it would appear. That might explain the relative lack of security. An attempt to hide in plain sight. And it worked for years.

[thewiseguy]

7. I think a giant compound with fence and security gates with little windows

would bring about enough suspicions. Plus the compound had security gates. Who was manning them? There were only 4 people on the property.

[ProSense]

4. So he was in Pakistan's custody

and the government allowed him to continue carrying out acts of terror and issuing videos?


Maybe you're right!

[thewiseguy]

9. He did not issue any videos after 2004.

That is the reason why many thought he was dead. He had a video tape in 2006 but many thought it was just an audio tape since his image was still on many of the current references.

[KittyWampus]

5. Perhaps.

[PVnRT]

8. To paraphrase Michael Moore, rich people don't live in caves

[LiberalEsto]

10. I believe there were 3 or 4 men and 3 women in the compound

Somewhere in the news reports I read that one woman being used as a human shield was killed, and two other women were injured.

[Taverner]

11. I think the Pakistanis knew he was there, and we just now got the go ahead

If I am right, expect some bone thrown to Pakistan in the next couple of months.

[thewiseguy]

12. I think Pakistan had him under house arrest for a while but did not want to kill him

Killing him would bring revenge and backlash against the Pakistani leaders and I think they did not want any of that.

The Obama administration probably knew the deal for a while but was not satisfied with a house arrest and was perhaps suspect that Bin Laden was still allowed to communicate with his followers so they made the decision to go ahead and kill him.

[Taverner]

13. Could be the case as well

Truman's words rung in my head all night, "Nothing happens by accident in politics"

But even still, I'm glad he's dead, and I'm glad we got him

[Solomon]

14. Or perhaps the Pakistani were protecting him.

Ever think of that? Obama pretty much said so during his campaign when he said he would go into Pakistan to get him. Went further than any one candidate and it raised quite a few eyebrows when he said it.

[thewiseguy]

15. If that was the case they would have placed him in a much more secure area

Where we could not get our hands on him and not in a compound outside a military base with no protection.