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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:44 AM
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Remember when Obama made the joke about predator drones at the white house press corp dinner?
It was a joke and in reference to future boyfriends of his daughters. Still, I thought it a strange joke. If we listen, people reveal themselves..even in jokes. Upon hearing that comment, I thought he's just been sold on how wonderful and effective predator drones are. Every time I hear about a new strike I think of that joke.
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a simple pattern Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:49 AM
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1. Reminds me of Bush
looking under the table for teh WMD
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:07 PM
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2. same agenda nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:23 PM
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3. Same doctrine on steroids.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:30 PM
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:31 PM
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7. A "boy" huh?
Quaint.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:51 PM
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23. Why are you referring to the first African-American President as a "boy"?
Edited on Sun Oct-16-11 06:55 PM by ClarkUSA
That's disgusting.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:37 PM
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11. "This would be easier if it was a dictatorship . . .
of course, I'd have to be dictator."

This was a "joke" Bush repeated several times during the 2000 Presidential campaign. Signing statements, Executive Orders and a Republican Congress pretty much brought that dream to fruition.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 02:00 PM
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41. the cavalier attitude toward war and war's collateral damage
is not joke really.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:27 PM
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4. Another successful drone strike yesterday, effectively expiring more human debris.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-11 12:29 PM by jefferson_dem
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:32 PM
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8. What humans do you consider debris?
While I wait for your answer I'll ponder how much your comment influences your support for the Administrations's militarism.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:39 PM
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9. For example, those that suffered the result of this drone strike, and the one two weeks ago...
Edited on Sat Oct-15-11 12:39 PM by jefferson_dem
that targeted Anwar al-Awlaki. Silly.

My comment doesn't influence my support for the President's foreign policy but it does reflect it.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:42 PM
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10. How about these?
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/08/civilian-deaths-from-drone-strikes/

I agree your comment reflects the President's foreign policy.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:29 PM
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5. No, it wasn't the same type of joke.
Joking about his daughters, and future boyfriends, and even daring to mention a particular weapon is not the same as joking about what one used as a consistent lying ruse in mounting a trillion dollar war for years.

You can feign that it is the same thing, if it helps you equate Obama to Bush, and therefore provides a bit of a thrill to you and those usual suspect rushing in to agree with your apples to orange comparison just because they can.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:58 PM
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15. Exactly. n/t
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:38 PM
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21. Can you concede
that Obama's joke was offensive?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:21 AM
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40. never he cannot be offensive
even his farts smell like juicy fruit gum
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a simple pattern Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:15 AM
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38. You know, I did think the joke was funny at the time.
Now that he has executed an American citizen via drone without a trial, it doesn't seem quite so amusing.

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:57 AM
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39. There it is!
I thought it was funny too, at the time. I have a daughter and I made the usual jokes about baseball bats, Smith & Wesson, etc. I thought, well, this is just the escalated presidential version of those jokes.

Now it's not so funny.

Bake
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:57 PM
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12. Reported yesterday that two of our own military were killed by "friendly drone" attack -
- drones are nothing to joke about. They're deadly to the enemy - to civilians - and to our own military. Yes, all weapons are deadly and I don't think any of them are joke-worthy. I think killing is serious business.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/afghanistan/la-fg-pentagon-drone-20111014,0,5628010.story
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:47 PM
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22. U.S combat deaths have been stopped by drones.
Countless time drones have saved troops lives. I have witnessed it first hand more than a couple times.

I will take drones over mortar and artillery.

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:08 PM
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13. File that with his public jokes about TSA abuses.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-11 02:13 PM by woo me with science
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:32 PM
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14. It's a pretty common joke
On the West Wing, when President Barltet gives Charlie consent to date his daughter, he reminds him that "She's 19 and you're 21 and the 82nd Airborne works for me".
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 06:42 PM
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16. How many months has it been since he made that joke?
Are you just now getting upset about it? Or are you just looking for a new anti-Obama angle for today?
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:27 AM
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17. i am upset every time i hear of this punk warfare..making a joke about blowing things up
is unsettling..finding something new to gripe about with obama is not difficult..new material almost every day..unfortunately
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:44 PM
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19. "finding something new to gripe about with obama is not difficult"
No, we've all noticed how easily you find things to gripe about. Even damn near 2 year old jokes.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:09 PM
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30. the lesson to be learned is, if someone is bound to be outraged, they can find any reason, even
imaginary ones, to do so...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:04 PM
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36. it's relevant whether you think so or not ..nt
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:37 AM
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18. Unrec for delayed outrage
May 2010? Give me a break
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:04 PM
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26.  .... delayed manufactured outrage.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:04 PM
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27. A new syndrome!
nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:25 PM
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20. Thanks for reminding me. It was a great joke. Wish he'd make one about nailing OBL next time.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:55 PM
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24. Why? Did he lie us into a war claiming that country HAD predator drones and that's why
we had to invade that country?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:58 PM
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25. It was a bad joke because it showed a desensitization to killing...
Sadly, a lot of Americans are pretty desensitized at this point.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:08 PM
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28. Yea, fathers NEVER make jokes about killing their daughter's boy friends ... please.
Fathers have made this threat FOREVER!!!!

I had at least 2 fathers make this threat to me PERSONALLY.

I'm still here.

The idiotic nonsense that gets some DU folks worked up is endless.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:21 PM
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32. Not with DRONES - jeez, get a grip.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:06 PM
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33. You are clearly not a father of daughters ....
The joke line I might use to remind my daughter's boyfriend that he better not screw up would also be over the top.

But I don't have drones at my disposal. If I did, I'd mention them. Congress won't help close GITMO, fine, if a boyfriend screws up, off he goes to GITMO.

And as for those who need to "get a grip" it should be those getting angry about Obama's joke.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:08 PM
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34. Who's "angry" - that's not in the op or anywhere else. It's just not cool...
...to joke about drones when the U.S. has killed a lot of innocent civilians with them.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:41 PM
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42. What is idiotic
is not noticing the difference between Obama's joke and the typical joke by a father about killing boys who date his daughters. Earth to JoePhilly: Innocent people have been killed as collateral damage by drone strikes ordered by Obama. Doesn't that make it reasonable to find offensive his joking about using drones to kill people?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:08 PM
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29. must be a slow day for outrage.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:13 PM
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31. Not really...it was a strange quote from our new Dem President...
I took it that he was a "gamer" in his night hours. Playing "War Craft" or some such and got his jollies off it.

I can't blame him...Tons of Americans play those games and it wouldn't be unusual for them to say that about their own daughters perspective beaus.

"BEWARE THE DRONES...THEY COME NOT JUST FOR OUR ENEMIES...BUT, FOR YOU!"

It was sort of Campy Humor.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:16 PM
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:22 AM
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37. To be completely frank
It bothered me at the time because many civilians had been killed by drones around that time. He doesn't have to be a Quaker, but I'd like him to avoid making such a joke. I'm an Obama supporter and enjoy non-pc humor but I think that's over the line considering the history of the US in the third world.
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