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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:34 PM
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Do 'Occupy Wall Street' Protests Represent Your Views of the Economy? Faux poll

Thank you for voting!

Maybe. I am not even sure what they want. 3.06% (3,038 votes)

No. They have no idea how jobs are created or how a free-enterprise system works. 45.33% (44,969 votes)

Yes. These folks are right about corporate greed and what's happening to the little guy. 50.82% (50,414 votes)

Other (post a comment). 0.79% (785 votes)


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/07/do-occupy-wal...



Poor things.

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:02 AM
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1. There is no free-enterprise system
The system of laws, the system of regulation, and the system of enforcement, create winners and losers by artificially distorting the market.


Since money is free speech, the top 1% has most of the free speech, and therefore most of the influence, over the people that make and enforce laws and regulations. Naturally, they top 1% (who got rich largely by being greedy psychopaths, regardless of brilliance in their respective fields) uses their free speech to make laws, regulation, and enforcement to THEIR advantage.


The top 10% takes home half of the wealth.




23+15+11=49%.



So that's the power the bottom 90% are fighting.


And it's not event that much, because the 80-90% bracket gets 33%. So it's really the bottom 80% being outweighed 4:1 by the top 20% in terms of free speech.

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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:36 AM
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4. +1 Well said.
What's being fought here is a war against systematic distortions of the facts to keep people blind. A system where billionaires makes the laws ensures: 1) High taxes + bailouts + no-bid contracts to keep them billionaires. 2) Laws will be put in place to make sure nobody else can compete with them. This kind of system has NOTHING to do with actual free markets.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:06 AM
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5. Reagan, among others, was worried about capitalization falling...
...after the masses (the bottom 99%) realized they could simply vote themselves money from the Federal treasury.

That's why the Repubes aren't really that hot on democracy, despite all their grandstanding.



Of course, none of the fuckers give a whit about capitalization failing because the elite, the top 1%, realized they could just buy themselves money from the Federal treasury!


:shrug:


The economy is a human tool, not an unstoppable force of natures. By definition, it works best not when it is purest, but when it helps humans the best. Some people think those things are one and the same, but of course it isn't.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:44 AM
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6. My sense is that its like scientific theory.
E=mc^2. Its brilliant because its simplicity. Every good theory has the quality of being simple, yet complete...encompassing everything. I think that's really what we want for markets and regulations. You want to find this simple set of all encompassing regulations that leaves nothing uncovered. So like the physical laws of the universe, they are small in number but complete in reach, limitless in manifestation. There really is no political platform for this belief.

But that's my poetics for the evening. As far as what you said, YES. Nail. Hammer. Head. Its really about a social decay in the financial elite. These guys used to understand that paper money was worthless, it was a tool for the organization of society, and they used that. But the BANE of the right is that over time the magician falls for his own trick: While they used to selectively issue created currency as loans to shape the development of society, (by choosing who gets what loans) a trick which exploited the popular belief in the value of the created money, over time they started to believe their own magic. Instead of shaping society, bankers decided it was their job to get money themselves, fill their pockets with it. This has been unfolding over decades, and the inevitable result is recession and ultimately, the devaluation of the very concept of currency at fundamental levels...Nobody's hand is in the puppet anymore, everybody is sitting in the audience with the kids wondering why the puppet looks dead, including the puppeteer, who's hogging all the kids popcorn.

And so this part of the cycle ends. This system will continue to wallow until things get cleaned up and something new comes along, IMHO.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:07 AM
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2. Surprised at 54% Yes vote. Wow.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:35 AM
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3. So was I considering it is FOX news. Of course I added to it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:03 AM
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10. This is why the populist left needs to join with the populist right...
...instead of letting the two-faced corporate party continue to divide and conquer the people.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:28 AM
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7. I like how they ask for you to vote and comment then when you click on the link
"COMMENTS HAVE BEEN DISABLED"

Could that be because it has a 60% Yes vote?

:rofl:

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:31 AM
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8. 61% Yes
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:59 AM
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9. Poll based on Kathy Nikolaus method (vote as often as necessary to win)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:11 PM
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11. Yes now at 66%. nt
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:54 PM
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12. I voted, it is nearing 67%
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