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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:54 AM
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"Sell Out"
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 12:59 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I've seen some disagreement about what it means to call someone a "sell out."

Some take it hyper-literally to mean that money has changed hands, quid pro quo... like literally selling a vote or action in office.

Most people, I think, use "sell out" in the vernacular sense of becoming insincere and commercial in order to achieve success, whether seeking record sales or the presidency. It is a term one uses to express disappointment in a formerly principled and perhaps rebellious figure becoming of the system. (Like when The Clash did "train in vain")

What is comical is that some folks denounce the "sell out" label as applied to President Obama as a factual lie.

That's wacky! It's a value judgment.

Unless one thinks the term is a formal accusation of bribery or something.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:56 AM
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1. WTF
get outta here with that.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:57 AM
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2. Actually, in the current healthcare debate, "sell out" is a particularly apt phrase
given that it is the exact opposite of "buy-in".
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:59 AM
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5. And we have been sold to the insurance companies (n/t)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:58 AM
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3. what-evar!
:D
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:58 AM
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4. trash post
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:00 AM
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6. He tries hard to appear to be "reasonable".......
but it's just an act.

He's been this way since his support for Hillary.

He got over it, kinda, but perhaps, not really.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:04 AM
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7. it's obvious that none of them
have gotten over it.

But they always say it isn't personal, before they start to bash Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:28 AM
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8. It's like a game to them......
only they think they are playing chess, and everyone else is playing checkers! :rofl:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:35 AM
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9. All the while forgetting that Hillary had her shot at healthcare and failed. nt
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:29 AM
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13. That's bullshit, the majority of us not only got over it but also voted for Obama.
We will also vote for Obama in 2012, we may bitch and whine but we at least vote.

I find it ironic that we are still called the bitter ones when I see many of the biggest (supposed) Obama supporters of the past trying their hardest to undermine our president.



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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:35 PM
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15. tell that to your compadres calling Obama a OneTermer
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:04 PM
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19. i wouldn't put that on this poster though.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:13 PM
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21. no, but they are attempting to defend those who I describe.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:03 PM
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18. clearly not all supporters of other primary candidates have chosen this path of bitterness. you are
an example :)
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:11 PM
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20. what was your first clue? a whole years worth of these OPs wasn't obvious enough?
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 04:11 PM by dionysus
:P
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:15 PM
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22. Says the clown who posted this piece of work.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:55 AM
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10. Word-a-day
What are you? DU's own phrase of the day calendar?

I would think, that after your condescending thread informing everyone that they were incorrectly using the "under the bus" phrase revealed you to not only be wrong, but that you hadn't even bothered to look up the origins and meaning of the phrase in the first place, that you would dial down your efforts to "school" everyone.

(and yes, I know that the above sentence is a grammatical nightmare)
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:43 AM
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14. Your fantasy about the origins was wrong, so go chastise yourself for a change
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:07 AM
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11. If you count campaign donations, the term may be literal.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:17 AM
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12. This thread has it all
Angry Left baggers, angry cheerleaders, and an OP that makes a logical argument.

You can't sell out, what you never really believed, to begin with.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:01 PM
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16. he never should have licensed his albums for shampoo commercials.
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 04:01 PM by dionysus
:aneurysym:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:03 PM
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17. Real useful term there huh
means anything you want.

:shrug:
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