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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:19 PM
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Docs: Bush Official, Kucinich Offered To Help Qaddafi Regime On Ending U.S. Involvement In Libya
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/08/2011831151258728747.html



I found what appeared to be the minutes of a meeting between senior Libyan officials – Abubakr Alzleitny and Mohammed Ahmed Ismail – and David Welch, former assistant secretary of state under George W Bush. Welch was the man who brokered the deal to restore diplomatic relations between the US and Libya in 2008. Welch now works for Bechtel, a multinational American company with billion-dollar construction deals across the Middle East. The documents record that, on August 2, 2011, David Welch met with Gaddafi's officials at the Four Seasons Hotel in Cairo, just a few blocks from the US embassy.

During that meeting Welch advised Gaddafi's team on how to win the propaganda war, suggesting several "confidence-building measures", according to the documents. The documents appear to indicate that an influential US political personality was advising Gaddafi on how to beat the US and NATO.

On the floor of the intelligence chief's office lay an envelope addressed to Gaddafi's son Saif Al-Islam. Inside, I found what appears to be a summary of a conversation between US congressman Denis Kucinich, who publicly opposed US policy on Libya, and an intermediary for the Libyan leader's son. It details a request by the congressman for information he needed to lobby US lawmakers to suspend their support for the Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) and to put an end to NATO airstrikes. According to the document, Kucinich wanted evidence of corruption within the NTC and, like Welch, any possible links within rebel ranks to al-Qaeda.

The document also lists specific information needed to defend Saif Al-Islam, who is currently on the International Criminal Court's most-wanted list.



Dennis Kucinich issued a statement to the Atlantic Wire stating: "Al Jazeera found a document written by a Libyan bureaucrat to other Libyan bureaucrats. All it proves is that the Libyans were reading the Washington Post... I can't help what the Libyans put in their files... Any implication I was doing anything other than trying to bring an end to an unauthorised war is fiction."


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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:24 PM
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1. Koochie--this stuff seems a bit dirty if more data comes out.
Not too cool there and not your job. However we'll see how this goes as more information comes out. Depending on how bad this is I can see Koochie going the way of Weiner.
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:25 PM
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2. I agree. I wanted to make sure to include his denial of the matter. Either he's over stepped his
bounds or his name was just found in the wrong place at the wrong time. Either way a bit more explanation is due.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:34 PM
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:36 PM
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4. Excuse me? Who the hell is bashing? I posted the story, then posted Rep. Kuicinchs rebuttal
how the hell is that bashing?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:48 AM
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11. Here's how it goes:
For some people, anything negative about the President is the unfortunate, unpleasant, regrettable TRUTH. This is, to them, "speaking truth to power".

Anything negative -- however much it IS the unfortunate, unpleasant, regrettable truth -- said about Dems they like is BASHING. This is called "tearing down good Dems/Liberals/Progressives".

Simple!
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:52 AM
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13. And the reverse?
You sound like you're admitting that you're usually the one dismissing criticism as bashing. Does this...reversal of roles somehow satisfy you?
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 04:33 PM
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5. Apparently we don't want to talk about congressmen working with leaders of other countries to
undermine the President..
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:47 PM
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8. Sadly, no DFab420...when people pick a hero they stick to them like white on rice. n/t
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 04:58 PM
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6. If any other Congresscritter had done this do you think more attention would be paid here?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:46 PM
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7. Of course. When GOPers did this. It was all over DU and went flaming.
You have it with Koochie who might be doing it...well you are just setting up lies, although this might be 100% fact.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:40 AM
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9. If was a Repub DU would be outraged
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:47 AM
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10. You certainly seem invested in getting ire up
Really puts paid to that whole "Democrats thick or thin" bullshit Obama's most ardent supporters talk about.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:50 AM
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12. As if POTUS' most ardent detractors try to uphold that standard.
Yeah, right. And there's a bridge to sell in...
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:56 AM
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14. I've never seen them pretend they do.
But I've seen plenty of his ardent supporters take up the battle cries of "divided we fall," "the worst Dem is still better...," "Solidarity Democrats," etc.

Not that I ever particularly bought it, but I'd say the eagerness of threads like this pretty much expose the whole ideology as bull.
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