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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:23 PM
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We should primary Obama, start a 3rd Party, Not Vote, Elect Republicans.....And I want a Pony
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 12:24 PM by Armstead
Just thought I'd pull together all the stereotypes that are relentlessly applied by some here to anyone who disagrees or disapproves of anything related to the performance of President Obama or Congressional Democrats.

If you care to save yourselves some typing, please feel free to copy and paste the title line of this OP anytime you need to respond to someone on "the left" or the "Obama haters" or anyone else not in Total Agreement with President Obama or The Correct Agenda.



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  - I rarely see "I'm not voting."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-09-11 12:26 PM   #1 
  - Hope you never need Medicare or Medicaid. Or Social Security. nt  valerief   Aug-09-11 12:26 PM   #2 
  - Don't forget the magic wand bit.  QC   Aug-09-11 12:27 PM   #3 
  - Couldn't fit 'em all in the title line...I know I left out some choice ones  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:30 PM   #7 
  - Yawn. You've called people worse when they don't agree with you.  great white snark   Aug-09-11 12:27 PM   #4 
  - Oh thanks...I forgot that one  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:30 PM   #8 
  - lol  d_b   Aug-09-11 01:10 PM   #27 
  - Questioned the "core values" of Obama supporters ...  JoePhilly   Aug-09-11 12:48 PM   #18 
  - apparently, they opted for the also-familiar "pouty unrec without saying anything"  villager   Aug-09-11 12:28 PM   #5 
  - Well, yes.....But I'm not going to unrec my own post to illustrate that one LOL  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:32 PM   #10 
  - AKA: Dithering Heights  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-09-11 12:59 PM   #24 
  - How about "More overwrought hyperbole to stir up shit and kill time?"  CakeGrrl   Aug-09-11 12:29 PM   #6 
  - Feel free to collect your own...  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:31 PM   #9 
  - I'm glad you brought up "stir up shit"  great white snark   Aug-09-11 12:43 PM   #14 
     - Oh shucks, I forgot that one too. Thanks for adding it to the list.  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:57 PM   #22 
     - we all have to duck when the shit hits the fan..  frylock   Aug-09-11 01:03 PM   #26 
  - Oooooooooooooooooh, you said "pony!"  FSogol   Aug-09-11 12:36 PM   #11 
  - Did you steal mine? I want it back.  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:38 PM   #12 
  - I'll bite. Which one of those stereotypes is not true?  jefferson_dem   Aug-09-11 12:39 PM   #13 
  - The assumption that all who deviate want those things  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:46 PM   #15 
     - Ah...  jefferson_dem   Aug-09-11 12:54 PM   #21 
  - False Strawman.  JoePhilly   Aug-09-11 12:47 PM   #16 
  - Feel free to create your own strawman....That one was mine  Armstead   Aug-09-11 12:53 PM   #20 
  - except i have seen every single one of those said on here, and not in jest. try harder next time.  dionysus   Aug-09-11 12:48 PM   #17 
  - Yeap, some are acting like this is the way people act around here.  uponit7771   Aug-09-11 12:50 PM   #19 
  - Please add go fuck yourself to the list and e-mail to yourself regularly  Pisces   Aug-09-11 12:59 PM   #23 
  - Ah yes, an eloquent response  Armstead   Aug-09-11 01:01 PM   #25 
  - What you are doing IMO.....  FrenchieCat   Aug-09-11 01:24 PM   #28 
  - New rule: If you don't want to be stereotyped as saying it, then quit saying it. nt  guruoo   Aug-09-11 01:32 PM   #29 
  - We feel this is divisive and really isn't necessary.  pinto   Aug-09-11 01:34 PM   #30 
 
RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:26 PM
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1. I rarely see "I'm not voting."
However, I see tons of umbrage pointed at "I'm not voting for this/that."
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:26 PM
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2. Hope you never need Medicare or Medicaid. Or Social Security. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:27 PM
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3. Don't forget the magic wand bit.
It is especially snide and dismissive, which apparently makes it very popular.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:30 PM
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7. Couldn't fit 'em all in the title line...I know I left out some choice ones
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:27 PM
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4. Yawn. You've called people worse when they don't agree with you.
Hypocrite.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:30 PM
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8. Oh thanks...I forgot that one
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:10 PM
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27. lol
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:48 PM
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18. Questioned the "core values" of Obama supporters ...
in the last 5 days.

But its the Obama supporters who are being nasty.

:rofl:

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:28 PM
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5. apparently, they opted for the also-familiar "pouty unrec without saying anything"
which, when not slinging the above stereotypes, seems to be the extent of "conversation" the "reputation defenders" want to "engage" in...
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:32 PM
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10. Well, yes.....But I'm not going to unrec my own post to illustrate that one LOL
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 12:33 PM by Armstead
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:59 PM
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24. AKA: Dithering Heights
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:29 PM
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6. How about "More overwrought hyperbole to stir up shit and kill time?"
Stereotype that all ya like.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:31 PM
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9. Feel free to collect your own...
This is an admittedly one-sided list
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:43 PM
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14. I'm glad you brought up "stir up shit"
Said poster isn't even a Democrat. His agenda here is the same as any teabagger posting here-stirring up shit.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:57 PM
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22. Oh shucks, I forgot that one too. Thanks for adding it to the list.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:03 PM
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26. we all have to duck when the shit hits the fan..
whether you're a democrat, indy, green, or decline to state, like it sez on my voter reg.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:36 PM
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11. Oooooooooooooooooh, you said "pony!"
:popcorn:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:38 PM
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12. Did you steal mine? I want it back.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:39 PM
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13. I'll bite. Which one of those stereotypes is not true?
:shrug:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:46 PM
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15. The assumption that all who deviate want those things
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 12:47 PM by Armstead
Some do, some don't, some might reluctantly be moving to a belief that a primary or 3rd party might be called for. Most just want to see Democrats actually being liberals and progressive populists again.

The point is that there are always assumptions spouted off that people who are critical of Obama all have one agenda. And some -- not all -- "defenders" of Obama use that shorthand as a way to avoid debate and marginalize anyone who voices criticism.

For example, I think a 3rd party would be a disastrous mistake. I think a primary challenge would also be a mistake. However I do believe the Democratic politicians should have to actually work for votes and support rather than blithely assume automatic support no matter how badly they behave.

I do want a pony though.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:54 PM
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21. Ah...
Thanks for clarifying. I dig your perspective.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:47 PM
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16. False Strawman.
Those are not ... "relentlessly applied by some here to anyone who disagrees or disapproves of anything related to the performance of President Obama or Congressional Democrats."

They are ... "aptly applied by some here to anyone who disagrees or disapproves of everything related to the performance of President Obama or Congressional Democrats."

This one is fun too ... its not ... "If you care to save yourselves some typing, please feel free to copy and paste the title line of this OP anytime you need to respond to someone ... or anyone else not in Total Agreement with President Obama or The Correct Agenda."

It should be ... "If you care to save yourselves some typing, please feel free to copy and paste the title line of this OP anytime you need to respond to someone ... or anyone else in Total Disagreement Agreement with President Obama and Anything he does"

And its certainly not like those who support Obama don't have their "core values" questioned, right?

And I think its current fashion to call Obama supporters "infiltrators" at present, no?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:53 PM
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20. Feel free to create your own strawman....That one was mine
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 12:55 PM by Armstead
I realize that people who share my own perspective have our own talking-point putdowns too sometimes. Including me, although I try to behave.

This OP was not necessarily referring to people like yourself however (at least when you're on your good behavior). I appreciate that you will actually engage and debate in good faith with people without resorting to those "talking point" put downs.



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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:48 PM
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17. except i have seen every single one of those said on here, and not in jest. try harder next time.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:50 PM
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19. Yeap, some are acting like this is the way people act around here.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:59 PM
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23. Please add go fuck yourself to the list and e-mail to yourself regularly
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:01 PM
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25. Ah yes, an eloquent response
Thanks for proving my point.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:24 PM
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28. What you are doing IMO.....
is taking valid arguments and instead of responding to such, turning them into slogans via ridicule, as though if a particular opinion is prevalent, it becomes invalid.

1. There have been posts here that encourage primarying Obama, directly and implied. I've seen them and read them. So are we supposed to act as though they don't exist if some don't agree? Or are you setting it up so that some should hesitate to counter that idea? What does that gain you?

2. There have been posts here that encourage 3rd party voting or not voting at all, directly and implied, as well as ops and responses within ops promoting the idea that there is no difference between the parties. So when folks who disagree with such posts respond, why do you consider that stereotypical?

3. There are many who have had ridiculous expectations of this President, and same folks continuiously speak of their "disappointment". Isn't that a stereotypical post in fact, and why aren't you belittling it?

So no...you haven't "pull together all the stereotypes that are relentlessly applied"....only the ones that you disagree with. You left the "stereotypical" responses against this President on the cutting room floor.

As for the right for folks to criticize and disagree with this administration, obviously they can post what they want...and many do...but it appears that you want to label the response of those who don't agree with them. Why?
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:32 PM
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29. New rule: If you don't want to be stereotyped as saying it, then quit saying it. nt
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:34 PM
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30. We feel this is divisive and really isn't necessary.
Thanks. Locking.
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