The stunning decline of Barack Obama 2011 edition

[Vicar In A Tutu]

Today's special from Dr. Nile Gardiner, a 10 point guide on why the radical leftist Obama is in serious trouble. You really need to read the whole thing to believe it.



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100099871/the-stunning-decline-of-barack-obama-2011-edition-10-key-reasons-why-the-obama-presidency-continues-to-meltdown/

"In contrast to Bill Clinton, who moved to the centre after the emphatic Republican takeover of the House of Representatives in 1994, Barack Obama has shown little inclination to do so. This is a rigidly ideological presidency with a distinctly left-wing vision and agenda. Unsurprisingly, independents have been deserting Obama in droves, a huge cause for concern for the White House as it looks to November 2012."

The remainder is WELL worth reading for its sheer mobius strip of mind frying craziness, wilful ignorance and astonishing hypocrisy.

[villager]

1. Indicative of how vastly far right we've moved, if this is what passes for being a "leftist" now...

n/t

[dennis4868]

2. SO...

this editorial says he does not go far enough to center/right and that he stays on the left and other articles say the opposite...I HAVE A HEADACHE! All I know is that we need to win the House back and get enough dems in the senate to make it fillubuster proof...PEOPLE FORGET THAT CONGRESS IS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

12. AMEN!! This should be Goal #1 for *any* Democrat. Sadly, all the vitriol is pointed at the president

rather than where it should be: at the *vacationing* Congress!!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

3. hasn't moved to the center?

what planet are they on?
guess they missed the caves on public option, Boosh tax cuts, debt ceiling, etc

He can move the center (or more accurately, the right) all he wants, but the wingnuts will still say he's the second coming of Che Guevara. And contrary to the revisionist history, they still portrayed Bill Clinton as a secret communist to the minute he left office. It's only now that the right pretends that they loved working with him. That impeachment over a blow job? You must be remembering wrong, folks. Didn't happen.

[Vicar In A Tutu]

4. Reason, logic, a moral compass

Add "a functioning memory" to things you're mandated to surrender before the right-wing will accept you as their own.

[Enthusiast]

5. radical leftist?

On what planet?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. This dude is a right wingnut. He IS DIRECTOR AT the Margaret Thatcher center.

Nile Gardiner: Ph.D. Director, Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom.

Right wing freak who looks like a dork.

[Vicar In A Tutu]

7. Well, of course, but...

...have you noticed that these sort of views are legitimised for right-wing use? A right-wing nut job on TV is acceptable, but even a moderate leftist is portrayed as a ranting loon.

I find this article an intriguing glance into a warped, delusional hive mind.

[Mimosa]

21. President Obama is NOT a 'moderate leftist'

President Obama is no more leftist than was Prime Minister Tony Blair.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

26. Definitely. By the way, your screen name distracted me. I'm still laughing. lol :) nt

[Hawkowl]

8. Stupid Limey

Perhaps he should address the riots in his own country.

[Vicar In A Tutu]

9. He's on it.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100099816/tottenham-riots-how-long-before-the-shameless-left-starts-blaming-the-conservatives-for-the-criminal-actions-of-mindless-thugs/

"Tottenham riots: how long before the shameless Left starts blaming the Conservatives for the criminal actions of mindless thugs?"


Hahahahaha!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

14. Cameron's kettles are dreadful

[Marnie]

10. The writer is correct that Obama is in trouble because

he has moved away from the person he told us he was in order to get elected.

There is no way for the left or the independents to determine what Obama stands for because he moves his own goalposts as often as the Congressional Republicans move their's. At least we can understand their political intent. But we have no idea what Obama's intent is today or might be tomorrow.
There is not much left (no pun intended) for the left to support. I suspect independents are just as confused as we are.

The Obama who was elected simply doesn't exist anymore.
I think it will be very difficult for that 2008 Obama to be resurrected by the present Obama. Vital signs were extinguished within his first year in office,and he cannot avoid his own history of constant surrender.

[jamieque]

23. Ha ha ha ha.... oh please...

you must be kidding. Obama hasn't change at all. I am afraid it is the american people who have. We don't care about this country enough or want to get up off our lazy asses to do what is required to fix the problems we have in this country. So please think carefully before using other people's talking points because usually other people's opinions are complete BS. By the way, please be part of the solution and not part of the ongoing problem we currently seem to be plagued with in this country. What is the problem you ask? Well, the problem is the utter stupidity and inability to see or acknowledge any good things that have been done for us by the current president.

I really wish people would make up their minds and decide who's side they really are on. Right now most of the garbage I am hearing are Republican talking points and support for the wrong party. Personally, I don't give a fuck for the different groups... (Conservatives, Moderates... etc...) that make up the parties. All I want is people to wake up and start using their brains again to think clearly. However, I serious doubt that will ever happen. I think our children and children's children will end up being fucked because we didn't do enough. Instead all we did was argue and point fingers and blame everyone else but ourselves for the lack of action. Get this message through your brain... NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNLESS WE CAN STOP BEING SO EASILLY MANIPULATED INTO BELIEVING LIES. IF WE CAN'T SEE THE TRUTH WHEN IT IS IN FRONT OF US THEN IN TRUTH WE ARE THE REAL FOOLS.

You can keep blaming the president like every other short sighted fool has been doing all you want. But you better be sure to know who's side you are on come next years election. Otherwise, don't be surprised if the country goes even more into the crapper then already has. Nothing is going to change until the people change. The president isn't the problem or the enemy of the people. We are our own worst enemy because we don't listen to our hearts and do what is right for each other or the nation as whole.

Without unity there is no hope for the future. The American Dream will die and we the people, because our own ignorance, will be the ones to blame. We chose the right president for the job but the problem is that we have not chosen to change for the better. We still act before we think things through and don't take the time to consider what maybe actually going on. We jump to conclusions without knowing all the actual facts first and that has always gotten us in trouble. I really wish we would learn from our past stupid mistakes but instead we keep repeating ourselves over and over again like a broken record. But I guess it is fine to criticize the Republicans for being the fuckups they are since we'll never take a step back and look at own party. Ladies and gentlemen, neither party is perfect but instead of working together to strive for a more perfect party that actually has a spine we keep doing what we have always been doing. What is that you may ask? Well, it is simply to keep blaming everyone else for all the problems instead of realizing we are also to blame.

I will probably get flamed to death for my views but I don't give a fuck. Someone needs to be honest about all the bs going on.

[Number23]

11. Thank you so much for posting this

I have made this point (that independents are abandoning him not only because they think he's not focusing enough on jobs, but primarily because they think he is TOO LIBERAL) and NO ONE here listens.

THIS is the reality of the situation. Regardless of what the denizens of DU, and particularly GD think, HUGE swaths of Americans view Obama as TOO LIBERAL. And to them, this is a VERY BAD THING.

The guy who wrote this piece is a blithering idiot, but unfortunately he is right on the reason that Obama is losing indies.

[ProDem4]

16. Truth telling is not allowed here !!!!

But I will try again...

Obama has lost the indys and "I know how much people here hate them" White working class votes he got in '08.

So unless their is a miraculous turn around in the economy, Obama will lose in 2012.

And blaming the tea party for everything is not working. Look for more tea partiers in congress not less.

Now eat your peas

Sometime the truth hurts..

[Hawkowl]

17. Nonsense

If Obama moved any more to the right, he'd make Bachman look like a pinko commie. He's losing independents because he's weak--the cardinal sin of American politics. Just ask Dukakis, Carter, Kerry, or Bush I.

[Number23]

19. If your post was any more delusional, it would be climbing buildings thinking it was Spiderman

If Obama moved any more to the right, he'd make Bachman look like a pinko commie.

No real person ON THIS EARTH thinks that way. NO ONE.

[craigmatic]

13. Well I guess if you're a drooling,knuckle dragging right wing extremist everything is leftist to you

[BiggJawn]

15. No, he hasn't shown any inclination to move to the Centre...

He's still drifting from Centre towards the Right.

Who is the "Radical leftist Obama", and where are they hiding him?

[Name removed]

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[Mimosa]

20. The Telegraph is loaded with US rightwing propaganda

Granted, we who read European publications are aghast that American teabaggers frequently load the comments sections of UK publications with vile ignorance.

I've read lots of this garbage for 2 years now. The only thing which astounds me is how rightwing ugliness is being spread 'over there.'

But, please tell us why you, Vicar in a TuTu, believe this boilerplate BS is 'well worth reading'. Do you believe President Obama is a 'radical leftist'?

[Vicar In A Tutu]

24. It's worth reading because...

..it is SO delusional. This character is a real piece of work, and if I didn't know any better, would presume him to be a Colbert-esque parody. It's also indicative of how many on the right still, after everything, consider Obama a crazed left-wing extremist.

[Crunchy Frog]

22. I wonder where I can get some of what he's taking.

I need it.

[jamieque]

25. Oh look...

another ignorant idiot spouting bs. If you guys are smart you'll ignore him because this is just his flawed opinion. The only reason for this nonsense is to turn people against the president and in effect screw themselves over. I say this simply because it is the truth. President Obama maybe flawed in some ways but so are all us. And please I don't want to hear anyone say they aren't because we all are. If the president fails it is only because we failed to do our part.

We chose the right man for the job so stop doubting your past choices. Now is not the time to start turning on our president and acting like the Republicans who are batshit insane. The only reason they are acting the way they are is because he is doing what he said he would do. He is trying to stay true to his promises he made all of us. Why else are they going out their way to demonize him? Please people use those brains that god gave you think with and realize the president IS on our side. He always has been. If doubt it then speak up in a constructive manner not a 'he is the anti-christ' demonizing manner. That is how the Republicans behave not us.

True, he tends to stray off his message but who doesn't. What matters is that his heart has always been the right place despite all the conflicting lies and data we are forced listen to on a daily basis. What I want you all to realize is that it is our jobs to help keep Obama on message. He even told us while he running that when he did something wrong that we should speak up. And when I say speak up I don't mean in negative 'tear him down' sorta way but in mature rational way. There is nothing wrong with being critical and disagreeing with him but we must do so for the right reasons. I say this because if we throw Obama under the bus next year then we better damn well throw ourselves under that same bus with him because we will be shooting ourselves in the foot.

But then again sadly we seem to be use to doing that by now since we keep making the same stupid ass mistakes over and over again every single election year. Personally, I rather have a flawed president who strives to do what is right despite how much his critics complain then to have a puppet who flip flops every time the wind blows in a different direction. And no the president isn't flip flopper so don't even bother saying it.

When will all of you learn to just accept Obama for who he is. He isn't perfect but then again neither are we. It is up to each of us to do our part to change this nation. Ignore the idiots on the right and the left and the ones in the center because they don't have fucking clue what is right or wrong. They only know the truth as they themselves see it to be even if it is a false truth based on distortion and lies. We have to be the ones who put the spine back into our party because lets face it without us they are completely hopeless.

So instead of coming back with some nasty response to my comment you need to take the time to ask yourselves one important question: DO I TRULY BELIEVE THAT I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER?

[JNinWB]

27. Thank you for taking the time

to post a thoughtful commentary that reflects most Democrats' opinion of President Obama. It is depressing to read so many alarmingly savage threads here on DU considering the disasters facing this Nation. The goal of these posters is to see Obama primaried and defeated.

Do not be misled.