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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:42 PM
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Just a note: when the smoke clears Obama will have backed a cut in SS and Medicare.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 10:44 PM by Safetykitten
That is what will happen. It will be chained, or by some other mechanism be a cut in the program.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:46 PM
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1. Unrec. No one can hope for the best here. He of course is set out to destroy America.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 10:46 PM by vaberella
I have far more support and hope in my President, because I voted for the guy.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:19 AM
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27. I hope he doesn't screw us AGAIN
And I voted for him as well.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:47 PM
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:47 PM
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3. Unrec. Looking forward to seeing your prediction proven wrong. -nt
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:49 PM
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6. Not going to be wrong. Why would he offer it then?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:52 PM
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7. Go find Lawrence O'Donnell's commentary from yesterday.
Or not.

If you don't choose to believe there's a method to this approach, fine. Take it on face value if you like.

My money's on the President knowing who he's dealing with.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:54 PM
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9. I hope so too, but not reality. He's going to do it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:49 PM
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:52 PM
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8. He will not be victorious. He will make cuts to both programs. But we will get that budget check.
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Palmer Eldritch Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:54 PM
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10. Now that the rumors have petered out, you're just making stuff up.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:56 PM
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12. So you know the endgame in the budget. You know for a fact.
He came out and said catagorically that SS and Medicare will not be "changed", "fixed" or any other code word for cut. Has he said that?

No, he has not.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:49 PM
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5. Obama...
has never used the words cut and SS/medicare together and now you are saying he backs it....HYPERSPECULATION TIME HERE AT DU....what the rest of the world heard was that he wants to strengthen SS....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:55 PM
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:58 PM
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13. The little love fest/celebration over a trial ballon by a republican turtle/monkey does not change.
what Obama said. Just wait. It's coming.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:58 PM
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14. *facepalm*
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 10:59 PM
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15. I think he simply called the GOP's bluff
He puts tons of cuts in front of them, then they ran away. (Lucky for us, I guess.)
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:00 PM
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16. Yes, and they always come back. Then the WTF?
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:19 PM
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17. Oh, and to add some skin in the game...I will give DU 100 bucks if..
there is no change whatsoever in SS and Medicare. No chaining, no fixing, no sprucing up, no making it better.

It cannot be changed that effects benefits in any way after this budget clusterfuck.

Deal? Then I will GLADLY pay what for me is a huge amount of money AND eat crow.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:24 PM
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18. You wish.
:rofl:
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:26 PM
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19. Nice comeback.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:36 PM
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20. I don't think a cut will happen
but he did back it, he put it on the table...

not a good thing
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:59 AM
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21. pfft
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 04:10 AM
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22. Oh stop it. Eat your peas. Take a break. Get over it.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 05:56 AM
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23. Some people are never satisfied.
Obama never used the word "cut" regarding SS and Medicare.

He called the Republicans out and it has worked.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 05:59 AM
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:05 PM
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25. Hi! Back from space. Anything happen?
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:18 PM
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26. Or he could go for the total capitulation... 4 trillion in CUTS only. Even
he realizes that the GOP wants to gut everything except the wealthy.
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