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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:42 PM
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If the White House and Obama are trying to get Independents back there not making any gains
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 08:45 PM by bigdarryl
at least in NH anyway.So here we have the President ready to give the rethugs everything to try and look moderate he's not impressing NH voters http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/07/romney-leads-obama-in-nh.html
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 09:10 PM
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1. **they're**, damn it.
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Keefer Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 09:16 PM
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2. THANK YOU!!!
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 09:18 PM by Keefer
Spelling is as important as the message! We can't lower ourselves to the level of "Moran." LOL

Another pet peeve is your/you're.

We have to get back to basics
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:18 PM
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5. Ahh, he can't help it
Daryl does this all the time. You just have to make a mental adjustment. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:21 PM
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7. Forget it. "Your" never gonna get through
to it. :evilgrin:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 03:32 PM
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29. Its the truth. What a looser.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 09:25 PM
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3. Does not bode well - not winning the independents while losing the left.
He's not going to win on the conservadems alone.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:20 PM
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6. He's not going to win at all
He's pursuing an imaginary middle since he got elected. He got elected by presenting himself to the left of Hillary and a 50 state strategy. Now, he positions himself to the right of Reagan?!?!

He's not smart. He's not a genius. He's politically suicidal.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:03 PM
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11. Did you really think he was to the left of Hillary?
I thought they were like two peas in a DLC pod.

Tesha
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:35 PM
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14. You're exactly right, but Obama rode the perception that he was to the left of her.
NGU.

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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:07 AM
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20. Well, he was to the left of her on like three issues.
No mandates and renegotiating NAFTA come immediately to mind, since those are what got him my vote over her in the primary.

Of course he was lying through his teeth about them, but he was to the left of her. Right up until he won the primary.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 01:36 AM
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4. if he wants to win independents, he needs to stop starting new wars.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 01:36 AM by krabigirl
and end the other ones.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 02:57 AM
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19. Bingo!! n/t
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:22 PM
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8. Maybe he's just there to cut SS and doesn't care about winning at all.
I think that would be absurd, but every day it looks closer to the truth.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 06:37 PM
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9. The president's secret weapon is the weakness of the GOP candidates.
Independents will not vote in large numbers for any of them.

Obama will be re-elected easily.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 06:40 PM
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10. Just like Palin being selected for the VP slot. n/t
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:49 PM
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16. I predict
a Romney/Bachmann ticket, that should satisfy the tea party/evangelicals.

I expect it will be a very close election!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:08 PM
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18. Could be except Bachmann has said too many strange things ...
Republican relatives said once Palin was picked for the VP slot they would rather write Mickey Mouse in then vote for that ticket, kind of sealed the deal for Obama, especially coming after Bush.

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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 02:38 PM
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23. And if
M. Mouse had a 'D' after his name, he would have been elected after 8 yrs. of Bush...............LOL...........
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 04:52 PM
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28. Romney/Bachmann will be a landslide for Obama
No GOP appeal at all for independents - who decide the election.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:05 PM
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12. While sabotaging all of the Democratic elections. He'll get his wish to deal with a completely GOP
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 07:06 PM by w4rma
Congress, then. Maybe he can sabotage Democrats enough that the GOP will have veto proof majorities and he won't have to do anything for his remaining term, except give pretty speeches about how he wishes he could fight, but can't.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:06 PM
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13. If Romney can get the nomination (and he's on course to win NH), Romney will easily win the General.
What states can Obama cede to the Republicans and still
put together a winning set of Electoral votes? Here in
New Hampshire (a state he won in 2008), he's well on
his way to becoming toast.

Tesha
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 08:07 PM
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15. Actually, a lot of Democrats have left the party
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 08:07 PM by zalinda
and registered as Independents. The party left me, so I left the party. I'm an Indie now, and I'm not impressed with Obama.

zalinda
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:52 PM
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17. Me too! And you are correct! Change
has come afterall..........
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:14 AM
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21. Not like there aren't 14 months left or anything
This type of post is best left for Oct. 2012.

I well remember the ones from 2008 and expect to see them again. Oh noes!!!!!! We're going to lose! Talk me down!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 04:11 PM
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24. Well if you don't want Obama to outright *LOSE* the NH Primary, you've got about 5 months.
You're lucky the Republicans are likely to have a real
race because if they weren't, they'd all re-register
as "undeclareds" and and then vote in our Primary to
ensure that Obama lost. And losing the NH Primary
would probably just about finish him off for '012.

And if Romney is still far ahead in NH come January,
you may still see some of that happening.

Tesha
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:47 AM
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25. Get back to me when it's time for the NH primary
I'm sure those progressives are really starting up their campaign for another Democratic candidate. in fact, who is he/she? They've only got 5 months.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:28 PM
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26. You don't get it, do you?
Here in New Hampshire, "undeclared" voters can choose,
on the day of the election, to vote in any party's
primary. They can then immediately return to "undeclared"
status.

What this means is that here in New Hampshire, you get
a lot of actual Republican general election voters voting
in the Democratic Primary just to "monkey wrench" the
outcome. Why do you think the winner of the NH Primary
is so often one of the worst possible choices for our
Party in the long run?

What this means in 2012 is that if there is a large
turnout of "undeclared" voters into the Democratic
Primary, Obama could very well fail to gain a majority
in the NH Primary, even if the loss comes at the hands
of a flock of lesser candidates. This would be a won-
derful outcome for the Republicans and would probably
finish Obama's chances in the General Election.

So don't blame the Progressives for your candidate's
fuck-ups, both those in the recent past and those yet
to come.

Tesha


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Hand_With_Eyes Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:27 AM
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22. "to try and look moderate"
...by fulfilling the radical extremist fantasies of the GOP.

Does Obama not see the irony?
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CrazyBob Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 01:47 PM
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27. A bird in the hand...
is STILL worth two in the bush.

If he'd focus on his likely voters, he'd have plenty of people to go out on his behalf and talk their independent friends into voting for him this time.
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