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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:53 AM
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Presidential Primaries: A Perspective on an American Electoral Left
The final installment in this three part series makes the case that the presidential primaries are/should be/could be a national political discussion – happening only every four years, at best – that a permanent American electoral left should participate in eagerly. The first article in this series, “An Obama Primary Challenge?” argued the importance of challenging the President from his left. The second, “Know Thy Rules: The Effectiveness of a Third Party Challenge” addressed the ways in which the structure of the American political system hampers the “third party” route taken in numerous other nations.

Part III

"Why is so hard to understand the need for a primary challenge to Barack Obama? When Jesse Jackson ran in the 1988 presidential primaries, pretty much everybody understood the point. No, he wasn’t going to get elected president – or even win the nomination, but the reasons for a primary campaign don’t end there. What Jackson would do was say what needed to be said. He would get ideas shared by a lot of people onto the front page for the first time in a long time, maybe ever. He would point out the nation’s shortcomings on the domestic front as well as our excesses on our many foreign fronts. People would talk to each other about them; some would organize. Other candidates might even have to address some of this for once. As he used to put it, he would “keep hope alive.”

The Obama “Hope” posters notwithstanding, it seems obvious that Jackson’s “hope” is very much in need of life support these days. Even those convinced that the President has fought the good fight, that in his heart he remains a man of peace, and that our problems are all due to Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats, must certainly recognize the still growing gap between rich and poor, as well as the fact that we currently bomb more countries than in the Bush years. Whatever else may be the case, by now it seems clear that just being the change we wish to see doesn’t cut it as political strategy. We need government committed to making the change we wish to see. And for that to happen, at the least, we need someone spelling out the nature of that change – on the national level, much as Jesse Jackson once did.

The surface arguments against challenging Obama are the fears that it would somehow weaken him and might alienate Black America, the group that formed the base of Jackson’s campaign. The reluctance to promote an alternative vision seems to run even deeper, though, for the fact is that the Jackson candidacy was an anomaly. A look back at the last two presidential campaigns – when there was no Democratic incumbent – may provide a more typical example of the American Left’s unwillingness to support candidates aspiring to promote its ideas."

more at http://demockracy.com/presidential-primaries-a-perspective-on-an-american-electoral-left/
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:09 AM
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1. Primaries should be about discussing the party platform as well.
This short video compilation from the 2008 debate illustrates some of that discussion we really should be having, but really aren't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFabLp-Jcbg

And consider the following;

The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election_debates#Debate_sponsorship

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:28 AM
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2. if only our democratic party candidates had the integrity of the league of women voters...sigh nt
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:22 AM
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3. The DLC was created in response to Jesse Jackson's campaign.
How did that turn out for Dems? Not so great. So bad in fact, that Dems aren't even really Dems anymore...as far as advocating for the people.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:42 AM
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4. While I'm no fan of the DLC, it did help regain the WH in 1992...
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 11:44 AM by Drunken Irishman
Progressive Democrats were getting their teeth kicked in nationally prior to 1992. Dukakis, Mondale, McGovern all were to the left of Bill Clinton and most DLCers and they were failed national candidates. Because of their inability to reach a wider audience, Democrats lost control of the White House during a crucial period of American history.

Because of this, much of the 70s and 80s were defined by conservative politics much like the 40s, 50s and 60s were defined by liberalism.

Yes, you could claim the Democrats were more liberal back then and certainly had some effective and progressive members of congress, however, how much of the left's ideology was pushed in the 80s? Not much. In fact, if anything was 'gained' out of the 80s, it was completely one-sided and resulted in the overturning of the New Deal.

In 1992, the DLC and 'third-way' helped grow the party's base - voters who had left the party in the 70s and voted Nixon, Reagan and Bush until Clinton came along.

Now obviously this is all speculative, but I've got to wonder how well Democrats do in another national election back in '92 if they run a stereotypical passive, boring ol' liberal like Mondale or Dukakis.

Certainly you'd at least agree America was better off with Clinton as president than another Bush term and, potentially, a Quayle bid in '96.

It's funny, the DLC bred the statement that if voters have the choice between a real Republican and a 'fake' Republican, they will choose the Republican every time - yet many consider Clinton and Obama Republican-lite and they're the only two Democrats to fare extremely well in national politics since 1968. The rest either lost or won narrowly (Carter) and some of those losses were downright embarrassing.

Go figure.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:29 PM
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5. Actually, it may have been Ross Perot that won the race for Clinton.

Perot got over 18% of the vote. I can't help but think he pulled a lot of republican votes from Bush I who lost to Clinton by under 6%.

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