Presidents have taken actions like Libya over 100 times in our nation's history

[VeryConfused]

with out Congressional authorization. That includes the Korean war

http://www.slate.com/id/2288869/pagenum/all/

[meow mix]

1. the isolationists have decided they are not worth helping..

but will use any manufactured excuse to help ghadaffi.

[rug]

2. Yay!

[earthside]

3. An Authority from Bush-Cheney.

Really.

You've got to be kidding.

To justify Pres. Obama's warlord powers it has come to using the 'authority' of opinion from a Bush-Cheney employee?

[VeryConfused]

13. Do you have a single supreme court justice

in the hundreds in our nation's history that supports your position?

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. Although I still think Dennis is nuts. It would be nice to have it proven in

court that not only is he nuts, but he is driven by demagoguery, not the Constitution. I'll take the word of the Constitutional Scholar & current POTUS, over that of the guy who claims to have seen a UFO. WTF is wrong with this dude? :shrug: One frivolous lawsuit after another.

[Enrique]

6. ugh

hate to see this kind of thing on DU.

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. Let's make a list of the "kinds of things we hate to see on DU".

This could take awhile. ;)

[AnnetteJacobs]

10. Unless the list is "the kinds of things every member hates to see on DU (all things in common)"

Then the list would be really short. ;)

[CrossChris]

8. It's helpful, if you think about it.

It brings a certain strand out of the woodworks.

[Tarheel_Dem]

11. You've been here a relatively short time, so I'll let that one pass.

:hi:

[namahage]

12. .

[Phx_Dem]

14. +100

Dennis is a tool. It's hard think of our very limited, no boots on the ground supporting role in the Libyan "conflict" as a "war." I don't even think it rises to the level of "war' from a Libyan standpoint. It's an internal conflict/unrest in an effort to oust a dictator, not an all-out war.

Knock yourself out, Dennis.

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. Agreed. And need I remind this board just how "effective" the good Congressman has been...

in his nearly 8 terms in office? I can dig up the link if anyone wants to see it. It's a Hoot! :hi:

[GeorgeGist]

5. And your point is ...

that Presidents are evil.

[zacherystaylor]

9. Presidents have never respected the Constitution

unless they had no choice.

Until we reform the election process they'll continue to do anything they can get away with if they think it is in their own best interest regardless of the constitution or the best interest of the public.

[JoePhilly]

15. Such ambiguity was part of the Founders plan.

When you create a government with 3 "co-equal" branches, your government will at times find itself trying to determine which branch controls a certain situation.

That Ambiguity was not an accident. The Ambiguity itself slows everything down. Which was the founders actual intent.

The founders distributed the powers, but they way they did it left lots of gaps.

Take the Iraq war. Congress never declared war, but instead GAVE their authority to Bush. If we want to get into a fun fight, I could argue that BUSH needed to be impeached, along with every member of Congress who voted YEA.

Our Constitution is intentionally vague. So that it can be interpreted in the time frame after the founders passed.

I think it was Sutter who said it was a "living document". I think that is correct.

How it applies today is different than it was 200 years ago, and the 2 branches get to stake out their positions every time a new situation arises.