On Weiner: What would you like to see happen to him?

[CreekDog]

My opinion, all the stuff he's going through right now is a form of punishment and humiliation and he is suffering for what he's done.

Not only that, there will be family repercussions and all kinds of things related to this in the future.

As for his political future, I'm content to let the voters in his district decide.

So beyond what he's already going through, what would you like to see happen to him?

I get this feeling reading posts here that people really think it's payback to watch him suffer, that there is some sort of joy involved in watching a wrongdoer get his comeuppance and wishing ever more to happen to him.

This is something I don't understand about the culture I live in, a characteristic that animates so many of us. It seems especially strange that in a nation with so many Christians who believe God has told them to leave the revenge and payback to him and not to revel or celebrate someone else's downfall, that this society seems to do the opposite.

Without defending Weiner (I think what he did was wrong both during and after), the reactions from others, including some here, are ultimately more troubling to me than what he did.

:shrug:

[Ian David]

1. He should serve out his term, but I don't know if he should run for re-election.

But then again, that's what a Primary is for.

[Rageneau]

21. He should be forced to trade dicks with me.

[SoFlaJet]

57. LOL

John Stewart's "press conference" from last night's The Daily Show was really good

[Enthusiast]

61. That would learn him!

:rofl: :popcorn:

[slackmaster]

2. I don't care

Not a bit.

[rucky]

3. I think public humiliation is a fair punishment

case closed. time being served as we speak.

[Ikonoklast]

4. I can't vote for him either way, the point is moot as far as I am concerned.

The voters in his district will decide if they want him as their rep or not.

[Deep13]

5. I'd like him to be assigned to the appropriations committee.

Wait, are we still talking about his dick?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. Unless he did something illegal and/or unethical

it really should be left up to the voters in his district IMHO. His behavior was dumb and how he handled the revelations was dumb but I haven't heard any reason(s) so far why he needs to resign now (or at any time) unless his constituents are screaming for his head. :shrug:

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. "My account was hacked"? He lied about it, which is worse than the original sin.

If his district still wants him, they're welcome to him. But, I certainly hope he won't be offered any leadership positions in the Democratic party. Knowing how others careers have been impacted by this crap, he still chose to do it, and lie about it? WTF?

If he weren't so pompous, I think I could forgive him, but the fact that he has now given new credibility to an asshole like Breitbart makes me hate him all the more. Fuck him. Breitbart is the winner in all this.

[crikkett]

8. Senate. n/t

[hack89]

9. Resign.. nt

[CreekDog]

11. is that because of his position on gun control?

would you ever have voted for him before this?

[hack89]

16. Because he is a liar.

his position on gun control is irrelevant to me - the day when gun control advocates can roll back our civil liberties is long gone. That battle was fought and won.

[Ter]

18. Everyone who supports that should resign

n/t

[CreekDog]

28. supports what?

:shrug:

[Ter]

49. It's not what he supports, it's what he opposes

Like his assault on the 2nd Amendment.

[CreekDog]

33. you're so done with this topic

:rofl:

[EC]

10. Nothing should happen to him.

he came clean, nothing illegal happened.

[ljm2002]

12. I hope he serves out his term...

...and runs for re-election. I hope he cleans up his personal life and it stays that way, and he discovers that there is satisfaction in life from being mature and honest in one's relationships. I hope he learns from this mistake and grows into a great public servant who is admired for his good works and for his personal integrity.

[Diamonique]

14. I'm right there with you.

If he isn't redistricted out of a seat, he should run for re-election (if that's what he wants). His constituents will decide.

Other than that, let's move on.

[truth2power]

20. Excellent reaponse. Wish I'd said it. n/t

[wordpix]

30. +1 let the voters decide after that

It is not criminal to sext pics, although it's a character flaw since he's a married man. Since he didn't do anything illegal, let him stay in Congress. Then let the people decide in next election.

[backscatter712]

13. Lower level punishment in the House: A reprimand, or yoinking of a committee seat.

Does every scandal like this have to result in being drummed out of office?

Vitter's still in the Senate, is he not?

As far as what should happen between him and his wife? That's between him and his wife.

[Tom Rinaldo]

15. Let the House, his voters, and him decide.

Let the chips fall where they may. Far as I know he's broken no laws. It's (kind of) a Democracy. If he quits that's his choice. If the House brings action against him, that's their choice. If he runs again, that's the voters choice. And all of us are free to support or oppose him in the legal manner of our choice.

[Avant Guardian]

17. I would love to see him as president

[RoadRage]

19. Resign.. because if he was an (R).. everyone here would be calling for it..

Sick of the if you're of "MY" political pursuation.. then i'll defend your pathetic acts.

Dude sent texts of himself to strangers. Dude got caught. Dude lied.

If "DUDE" was a republican.. those 3 things right there would be all the reason needed to ask for a resignation, so why the difference? Because he's a democrat - and pushes for issues you agree with? Guess what?! There are other democrats.. elect one who pushes the same issues, and does it with his pants on, un-photographed.

[mainstreetonce]

22. If it was an affair

I would say it is his business if it was an affair , but to sext and send pics is exactly what our young people have to learn is wrong because it will mess up their chances for a job etc.............they have to see that he did not get away with this.

[Carolina]

24. I agree with you

completely. I find Weiner's behavior (c/cf the guys on Chris Hansen's predators' series), his lies and his arrogance (in thinking he wouldn't get caught) DESPICABLE.

It's about sex (what else garners so much attention), lies, stupidity and the proverbial fall from grace! On this board, we'd be cheering such disgrace if it happened to a repuke. I liked Weiner but he should have realized that his outspokenness and innumerable appearances on cable would lead to RW scrutiny. And his psychopathology played right into their hands. He needs to go away (at least for a while so the story can DIE)and let someone devoted to the same issues, "with his pants on, unphotographed" take over and carry on.

[emilyg]

27. Correct. +1

[Purveyor]

40. +1 indeed. The hypocracy is startling... eom

[TheKentuckian]

87. I think you don't understand many folks opposition to TeaPubliKlans.

Some of actually hate their policies, their worldview, and who they work for.

Many of us only care about their sexual issues because the run on "family values" and use religion to prop up regressive policies. It is their hypocrisy that draws our ire, not their acts themselves.

If they'd cease and desist with using "morality" and "Christian Nation" tactics they'd not here a peep from me.
If one cannot process why people get peeved at TeaPubliKlan for bashing and attacking gay folks when it comes out they can't get enough dick then I don't know what to tell ya.

There is no hypocrisy save from TeaPubliKlans and the Bubba fan club.

[Raine]

41. Agree nt

[vaberella]

43. I wouldn't. But then I didn't even think Sanders should resign.

His wife resigned from him and that was what I was calling for.

[RoadRage]

56. Then I give you kudo's for consistency!

I thought Sanford should have resigned.. and that's why I think Weiner should as well. Lying, hypocricy, etc. But, my issue isn't so much as with the people who do or don't think that one should or shouldn't resign.. it's with those who think that if you have a (D) behind your name you deserve different treatment then if you have an (R) behind your name. Political affiliation shouldn't dictate the kind of behaviour you're allowed to get away with IMO.

[Enthusiast]

62. No. He is better than any Republican. nt

[RoadRage]

83. "Better" is a relative term.. and an opinion..

I bet his wife doesn't think he's "better". I'm sure the people who recieved his unsolicited pictures don't think he's "better". You can agree with the guys politics, but still be disgusted by his actions.

[chowder66]

23. Ditto....

I think some set their expectations upon others way too high and then when the person (target of expectations) makes a mistake or a series of mistakes the person who sets their expectations for others becomes too disappointed.

They just need to take these people down a notch from the expectation ladder so the disappointment is not as hard to take. There is nothing wrong in being disappointed but when some really think that's it. I can't trust them ever then they are not going to be satisfied by many people in life. That is not the mistake makers fault that is the fault of projection onto others.

I can't imagine how some can have relationships with family and friends or even co-workers or strangers when little to no forgiveness is given or even the idea or earning back trust seems to be a no-go.


Weiner messed up, he held out for a whopping 10 whole days trying to b.s. his way around it when he couldn't do it any longer...even though he probably would have if there weren't any more pics. He admitted it, he admitted a lot, he lost his 13 years of political capital. That is something he did and no one else did. That sucks for a career politician. He will have to start from scratch in many ways and will never regain any of that spent capital. Not to mention what he faces with his family and friends.

He did this to himself. He has already paid a high price but has more to face.

Those who are willing to see him better himself will stand by him and they are the ones who really matter to the person in question.

[Armstead]

25. Resign and run in a special election

I think having this hang over he and the Democrats for another year would be a bad thing.

IMO a special election would either show he still has the support of his district and allow him to move forward on that basis, or he would lose and allow everyone to move on without that distraction.

[AtomicKitten]

26. He should resign if and only if Vitter resigns.

[cherokeeprogressive]

44. His situation more closely parallels that of Chris Lee, and Lee resigned the same day. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

94. His constituents want him to stay and he hasn't broken any laws.

:shrug:

[Left coast liberal]

29. Yes, but they were gunning for him because he was going after the bad guys...

...I see this as a "Spitzer-ing".

They went and got dirt on the guy that was rocking the boat. This is the dirt they got. Yes, he totally fucked up and then botched the response, yes. That is why this is going down. If we thought this was the only idiot on capital hill sexting, I think I might be too innocent.

There is all sorts of garbage going on that town but we don't have it forcibly shoved down our throats days on end unless someone VERY powerful wants us to.

Weiner was seriously punked and exposed and humiliated, we know by who.

The real reason is "why?"

Clarence Thomas anyone?

[krabigirl]

31. Nothing.

[Whisp]

32. have a way much lower opinion of him,

but I don't think he should lose his position or anything drastic like that.

He's just another idiot, and he's proven it. A useful one tho if he is a dem that gets a bit done - which I thought he did, but who knows, maybe it's all theatre for him.

[tritsofme]

34. A fruitfull career in the private sector. nt

[marlakay]

35. I feel sorry for new wife

and I think he should have counseling. A bunch of men in power seem to get off with the danger of sexual stuff thinking with their little head instead of their real one.

I am kind of mad at Weiner because he was out there for dems. After we lost Alan Grayson and a few others that spoke out he has been the top one lately and now won't be able to.

I don't think he should lose job, but I think he should have a major warning done that if anything like it happens again he is out and mandatory counseling.

[Enrique]

36. i want to see him find Jesus

just kidding.

[DCBob]

37. Cable news political commentator..

Seriously.. I think he would be great and the sexting scandle will just be laughed off and forgotten over time.

[LibDemAlways]

38. Larry Craig remained in the Senate after he was

arrested for lewd conduct in a men's restroom. Weiner has not been arrested. He used poor judgment and embarrassed himself, but it doesn't appear he broke any laws.

Weiner should continue to do the job he was elected to do.

[golfguru]

51. I can't recall if Craig lied about tapping on the

men's restroom floor?

Usually lying is worse than accepting the blame and moving on.

[LibDemAlways]

53. He tried to weasel out of it by telling the cops he had

"a wide stance" and didn't mean to play footsy with the guy in the next stall. Ultimately he pled guilty to "disorderly conduct," paid a fine and was put on a year's probation.

[Purveyor]

39. Resign. Not another word that comes out of his mouth can be trusted. eom

[Raine]

42. Resign ... due to poor judgement, stupidity

and pathetic lying to try and cover up

[BDavinciNY]

45. He should stay as a Congressman and keep fighting for us!

It's understandable that Congressman Anthony Weiner lied to all of us because he was playing around on the internet for cybersex. And for that reason he should step down for it but he shouldn't. Bill Clinton lied about his affairs and a blow job and had to go through an impeachment trial that the Repukes were cheering for. Did we ask Clinton to step down for that? No? We stood behind him despite him lying to us. We should do the same for Congressman Weiner. But this time strongly warn him to never do that again. Weiner has a lot of good for him and the people in Brooklyn and Queens he serves. And I would vote for him for mayor of NYC because he is a man of the people. If we start casting away people because of the dumb decisions they have made then who will fight for us. There would be no one left to get in the face of the Repigs.

What Weiner has done is different than any Republican sex scandals. Don't forget that they always claim "family values" and they are better than any of us because of their supposed "high moral values" they claim to possess. Take for example Arnold Schwarzenegger who recently revealed that he had a love child from the maid he was banging. The worse part of this affair that Schwarzenegger screwed the maid in the same bed that Maria and him was sleeping in. Then he hid it for 10 years from his wife and kids. That is wrong and hypocritical of him. Like most republican this is the standard operating procedure to be hypocrites. What's worse rat bastards like Andrew Britebart is willing to blackmail any liberal, Democrat or anyone who he and right wing SOB's sees as threat to them. I will say that in due time Britebart will reap what he has sown. In a perfect world men like him wouldn't exist or drummed out of press.

We should not place politicians so high on a pedestal and to think of them a patron of honor. You will not find no honesty among politics or the clergy. Just because they are politicians doesn't mean they aren't people too with their proclivities, sexual or otherise. Unless Weiner broke the law by doing this he shouldn't be forced to resign because there are scared liberals and Democrats in fear of Republican reprisals. If its any consolation, it should be the Republicans that should be more honest with their supporters. They can lie about war, cutting Medicare out existence , give more tax cuts to the billionaires, turn this country into a fascist police state with fake religious values and still think they are great people.

Weiner is a idiot for doing what he did but he no moral highgrounder and public humiliation is a good punishment for him but do not force him to resign for something that stooopid. I stand with Congressman Weiner always not like fair-weathered liberals or pretend liberals such as Ed Schultz.

[SoFlaJet]

58. Hey my fellow Jets fan

did you happen to catch any of Ed Schultz's show last night? Even Joan Walsh said "I would never call you a fake liberal". Which means that we ALL pretty much believe him to be a full of shit opportunist. Since his return from suspension he has been showing his true (red) colors.

[BDavinciNY]

65. Hmmm.... Oh Really now !

I haven't seen Ed Shultz last night about Weiner. I'm hearing the clips now on Randi Rhodes with Bill Press and Joan Walsh. Ed sounds like a typical FOX news shouter of the Bill O' Reilly scale. Shouldn't Ed not throw stones at glass houses because he was suspended and forced to apologize on his air for calling someone a "slut". Big Ed should STFU his big F'n mouth and Fvck himself for being so high and mighty!

[butterfly77]

46. Stay in office..

Run for Mayor. The rest of the Dems need to shut the fuck up,they are scared as hell to give it to the CONS, Now they run their damn mouths about tryin to get one of our best Dems out of office,they are scared as hell they need to get out of the way.Many of these same people have done this or worse. They act like they have never seen a dick before...

[Kaleva]

47. Resign., The only defense he's getting is that he didn't kill thousands or start wars.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

48. i want to see him win his district again with the same margins as he did this time

[FeelingBlue]

50. I'd like to see him get back to work. n/t

[robcon]

52. Resign now.

n/t

[RBInMaine]

70. Why? Clinton didn't. Vitter didn't. No redemption? Let the voters decide.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

54. Nothing should happen to him....and I hope he continues to kick repuke ass on the House floor

[Jennicut]

55. Resign for being such a complete arrogant idiot for playing into the Repub's hands.

An outspoken liberal Dem just has to go and do this. I am more angry at him then I would be at some pathetic Repub because I expect despicable behavior out of them. We need outspoken liberal Dems to not have any personal issues used against them.
Also, something like this happened to me personally and all I can say is Huma, get out while you can and while you are still young. It rarely gets better.

[RBInMaine]

72. Clinton didn't resign. Vitter banged DC whores and didn't. You perfect? Let voters decide.

[annabanana]

59. BURN HIM!

(or let his constituents decide)

[Llewlladdwr]

60. He should resign.

As far as I'm concerned the man no longer has the moral authority to make decisions on how my family conducts our lives.

[RBInMaine]

71. Give me a break. Ever make a mistake? Clinton didn't resign. Vitter didn't. Let his voters decide.

[Amimnoch]

85. Darn good point, if anyone should have resigned, it should have been Vitter!

[Enthusiast]

63. He should stay on.

And he should run for re-election.

[Zoeisright]

64. Nothing.

This is a stupid distraction while the world is literally burning.

[saras]

66. Nothing that hasn't already - everybody shut up and move on to the next media hoopla

While I suppose I think what he did was wrong, I also think it was trivial, and unworthy of the public's attention, let alone this media circus.

Were I a sadist with a sense of justice, I'd wish an equal fate on anyone who's ever skirted on the right side of the law but the wrong side of propriety, about any issue, whether cutting off drivers on the freeway, looking for tax dodges, recreational drugs, sex with incapacitated drunks, not turning in found property, not giving charity, etc.

[Stuckinthebush]

67. Stay in office, successfully run next term, and get psych help

That's about all.

[vroomvroom]

73. 'Get psych help' -- I guess that means ALL MEN need help?

[Stuckinthebush]

78. I don't take pics like that and shoot them to random girls

Thats a problem. He needs to check into that.

[madamesilverspurs]

68. Good grief.

We should have locked Bill in a room with Hillary for a week and let her have at him. But no, we had to go through the inane waste of time and resources that was impeachment. Now the right is salivating again. Do they not remember where MoveOn got its name? Let's let Weiner's wife and family mete out their judgement, they have first dibs. As a husband, he's a skank. As a legislator, he does well for his constituents.

Let's not be stupidly sanctimonious. Or sanctimoniously stupid.

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[great white snark]

74. +1

Reasonable and intelligent responses are much appreciated. Thank you madamesilverspurs.

[RBInMaine]

69. Vitter banged DC whores, didn't resign, and was just elected to the Senate. Let the voters decide.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

75. Resign.

[madamesilverspurs]

76. ...

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[CreekDog]

77. two posters here posted that he should resign and it's because they don't like his gun control stand

instructive. :eyes:

[MrSlayer]

79. I'd like to see him banned from ever wearing pants.

In honor of his goofy behavior. However, I'd also like to see him continue serving.

[Whisp]

80. he's a liability to the Dems now.

as long as he's around in office, the wienertalk will never go away. He should have thought about that while he was stroking himself to some pixels

[Agent William]

81. He should be elected president...

That would be a fitting punishment for brave man...

[bigwillq]

82. Let the voters in his district decide.

Although I would not vote for him and would probably want him to resign if he lived in my district.

[Amimnoch]

84. I'd like to see him have a long, productive career in congress.

I really don't give a shit about his personal life, since his voting record shows he hasn't tried to trample the rights of others (i.e. he's not one of the hypocrite "family values" people).

I'd vote for him if i was in his district.
I'd canvas for him.
I'd phone bank for him.
I'd donate to his campaign.

His issues are (for the most part) solidly in line with my own.

If he was one of the congresscritters who make a habit of trying to regulate others morality, and made a habit of condemning others for their sexuality, or to deny rights to others... I'd say fry him for the hypocrite he is.. but he's not, so I give him a free pass.

[ChrisBorg]

86. He should resign. If he doesn't, he should have his security clearances revoked.

[Kaleva]

88. He may be redistricted out of a job anyways

NY has to give up two of its seats and from what I've read, the deal is that the Repubs will give up one of their own in upstate NY and the Dems give up one. The opinion expressed in some articles is that if Weiner manages to stay in office, the choice for which seat the NY Dems will give up becomes an easy one and that'll be Weiners district.

[quiller4]

89. I think he should resign for the good of the party. n/t

[Vidar]

90. The Presidency would be nice.

[center rising]

91. Resign!!!

[mbee]

92. Forget it unless the DC Madam is going to come out and give

the straight scoop on all of them. I could care less because I'm still waiting to hear who Cheney met with in the White House, but he was above the law.

[cottonseed]

93. He should help pass legislation making it legal to send pics of his dick to underaged girls.

Or at least some sort of "Weiner" amendment absolving anyone of any charges if they unknowingly send pics of their dick, balls, or asshole to a girl they "didn't know" was under aged. Wink wink.

[opihimoimoi]

95. Someone got to spike his nutrients with hallucination inducing compounds still legal in most states?